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Date:      Thu, 21 Oct 1999 07:32:36 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Godzilla <tjarrow3@yahoo.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   RE: Freebsd + Netmeeting = Possible ?
Message-ID:  <19991021143236.11128.rocketmail@web1704.mail.yahoo.com>

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I've actually been able to get Netmeeting to work from
behind our FreeBSD gateway.  The FreeBSD box is
running a socks5 proxy server, and we run Netmeeting
"socksified" using the free sockscap app available
here:

http://www.socks.nec.com/sockscap.html

Works like a charm.

Feel free to email me off the list for further info.

T.J. Arrowsmith
tjarrow3@yahoo.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On
Behalf Of Chris Shenton
> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 10:21 AM
> To: darryl@osborne-ind.com
> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: Freebsd + Netmeeting = Possible ?
> 
> 
> On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:48:23 -0500, "Darryl Hoar" 
> <darryl@osborne-ind.com> said:
> 
> Darryl> Greetings, I am running Freebsd 3.2 on a
gateway machine (ppp
> Darryl> -auto -alias isp).  I have a couple of Win9x
boxes on my lan
> Darryl> that use the freebsd box for internet
access.  The Win9x box
> Darryl> needs to use Microsoft Net Meeting for some
collabrative work.
> Darryl> Unfortunately, I can't choose a different
application, as that
> Darryl> is out of my control.  Anybody do this
already ?
> 
> Darryl> I'm stuck.  How do I get this to work.
> 
> NetMeeting implements H.323 protocols which bury
client and server
> information in the payload rather than just leaving
them in the
> header. This -- like any other application which
does this -- makes
> NAT or Proxy very hard. H.323 also has a very
complex negotiation
> phase: the client and server rendesvous on one well
known port, then
> agree to meet on another random port, then do this
once more -- for no
> sane reason I can understand. It was designed by
committee, a
> committee that never had to actually implement it or
make it work on
> modern networks that have any security concerns. 
> 
> I wrote a paper on its security implications a while
back; you might
> find it helpful to understanding how it works and it
might point you
> to other resources.
> 
http://www.shenton.org/~chris/nasa-hq/netmeeting/

But sorry, I don't have a solution for you unless
someone's written a
proxy which tracks the complex port negotiation. I
understand Raptor
and Checkpoint now do this in their firewalls but it
still presents an
astounding security risk to the end user workstations:
giving remote
users with no decent authentication keyboard/mouse
access to your
machine and anything it has access to.

Good luck.


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