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Date:      Sun, 15 Dec 2002 19:21:46 -0600
From:      Dan Nelson <dnelson@allantgroup.com>
To:        Scott Robbins <scottro@nyc.rr.com>
Cc:        "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog@FreeBSD.ORG>, FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Hubs and switches (was: uninformed qstn...)
Message-ID:  <20021216012146.GC8563@dan.emsphone.com>
In-Reply-To: <20021214060454.GA2291@scottro11.homeunix.net>
References:  <20021213060718.GA8054@tao.thought.org> <20021214034131.GH503@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20021213214850.D9342@seekingfire.com> <20021214040557.GA1797@scottro11.homeunix.net> <20021214054534.GK503@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20021214060454.GA2291@scottro11.homeunix.net>

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In the last episode (Dec 14), Scott Robbins said:
> On Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 04:15:34PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> > On Friday, 13 December 2002 at 23:05:57 -0500, Scott Robbins wrote:
> > > ... is that if one moves a computer from one location to another,
> > > the switch seems to take its time flushing its tables and the box
> > > won't immediately be able to get an address. It's only happened
> > > once or twice with a VERY cheap Linksys (again, the switch is
> > > probably 1-2 years old, and this problem might be fixed by now).
> > 
> > This is probably a feature, not a bug.  It's part of the spanning
> > tree algorithm used to detect and avoid link-level routing loops. 
> > My expensive Cisco switch has the same feature, but I found
> > somebody with enough Cisco-foo to turn it off.  Check the
> > documentation of your switch.
> 
> Thank you, I'm glad you told me that.  We're going to be moving some
> machines around after the new year, and had thought that with the
> higher priced switches we've been getting, that wouldn't be an issue.

Remember that all these low-priced switches are unmanaged, which means
that they come with a basic feature set that cannot be changed (you
can't lock a port at a particular speed, enable/disable spanning-tree,
etc).  Part of the price of those expensive switches is their ability
to be configured.  Some Cisco switches can take up to 60 seconds to
forward packets in a newly-activated port, because of all the features
available on high-end hardware that has to be tested for.  You can drop
the activation time down to 2-6 seconds by telling the switch that a
plain PC is on the other end.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/12.html

-- 
	Dan Nelson
	dnelson@allantgroup.com

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