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Date:      Sun, 06 Jan 2008 18:28:30 +0100
From:      Ivan Voras <ivoras@freebsd.org>
To:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: When will ZFS become stable?
Message-ID:  <flr340$mum$1@ger.gmane.org>
In-Reply-To: <20080106170452.L105@fledge.watson.org>
References:  <fll63b$j1c$1@ger.gmane.org>	<20080106141157.I105@fledge.watson.org>	<flr0np$euj$2@ger.gmane.org> <20080106170452.L105@fledge.watson.org>

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Robert Watson wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2008, Ivan Voras wrote:

>> Last I heard, rsync didn't crash Solaris on ZFS :)
>=20
> My admittedly second-hand understanding is that ZFS shows similarly=20
> gratuitous memory use on both Mac OS X and Solaris.  One advantage=20
> Solaris has is that it runs primarily on expensive 64-bit servers with =

> lots of memory.  Part of the problem on FreeBSD is that people run ZFS =

> on sytems with 32-bit CPUs and a lot less memory.  It could be that ZFS=
=20
> should be enforcing higher minimum hardware requirements to mount (i.e.=
,=20
> refusing to run on systems with 32-bit address spaces or <4gb of memory=
=20
> and inadequate tuning).

Solaris nowadays refuses to install on anything without at least 1 GB of =

memory. I'm all for ZFS refusing to run on inadequatly tuned hardware,=20
but apparently there's no algorithmic way to say what *is* adequately=20
tuned, except for "try X and if it crashes, try Y, repeat as necessary".

The reason why I'm arguing this topic is that it isn't a matter of=20
tuning like "it will run slowly if you don't tune it" - it's more like=20
"it won't run at all if you don't go through the laborious=20
trial-and-error process of tuning it, including patching your kernel and =

running a non-GENERIC configuration".


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