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Date:      Mon, 29 Apr 2019 15:24:08 +0700
From:      Victor Sudakov <vas@mpeks.tomsk.su>
To:        freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [vm-bhyve] shutting down VMs and kern.init_shutdown_timeout
Message-ID:  <20190429082408.GA84142@admin.sibptus.ru>
In-Reply-To: <1DE7A90B-E3AB-4F1E-9A3A-981B18751F8E@punkt.de>
References:  <20190428044118.GA46284@admin.sibptus.ru> <1DE7A90B-E3AB-4F1E-9A3A-981B18751F8E@punkt.de>

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Patrick M. Hausen wrote:
>=20
> > Am 28.04.2019 um 06:41 schrieb Victor Sudakov <vas@mpeks.tomsk.su>:
> > "if the /etc/rc.shutdown does not terminate within 120 seconds, init wi=
ll
> > terminate it.  The timeout can be configured via the sysctl variable
> > kern.init_shutdown_timeout.=E2=80=9C


> What=E2=80=99s keeping you from increasing that timeout for your
> particular requirements?=20

Is that really necessary? Am I correct assuming that any VM is supposed
to shut down within 2 minutes or else the bhyve processes will be
killed? Or is this kern.init_shutdown_timeout only about the rc.shutdown
script itself and not its children?

> IMHO 2 minutes are a reasonable
> default for a system that does not run hypervisor VMs -
> which is probably the vast majority.
>=20
> Anyone with the knowledge to implement a virtualized
> environment=20

The lack of information about this caveat in
https://wiki.freebsd.org/bhyve, man vm-bhyve,
https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/virtualization-h=
ost-bhyve.html
and other sources suggests that this particular knowledge may be
limited. Other hypervisors (non-bhyve) probably wait for all VMs to stop.


> can simply set that to a more suitable value,
> can=E2=80=99t he/she?

Yes if they know about it. There should be a warning somewhere in the
documentation if we want to be serious about FreeBSD as a hypervisor.

Or better still, a warning that rcshutdown_timeout (if set) and
kern.init_shutdown_timeout can be too low when running vm-bhyve and
such is desirable.


--=20
Victor Sudakov,  VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/

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