Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 18:10:07 GMT From: Wei-Chun Kao <wckao@cs.berkeley.edu> To: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: conf/138672: ISO 3166 call Taiwan a wrong name, please call Taiwan "Taiwan" as before. Message-ID: <200909121810.n8CIA7r3079788@freefall.freebsd.org>
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The following reply was made to PR conf/138672; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Wei-Chun Kao <wckao@cs.berkeley.edu> To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, linpct@gmail.com Cc: Subject: Re: conf/138672: ISO 3166 call Taiwan a wrong name, please call Taiwan "Taiwan" as before. Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 10:45:57 -0700 --Apple-Mail-1--407549783 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes I support changing it back to Taiwan for the following reasons. 1) As stated in PR6845, "The FreeBSD installation only wants to know where you approximately live". For that purpose, it is most useful to choose a synonym that is recognized by most people. If you search these two terms on the web, you will see that most of the people use "Taiwan" instead of "Taiwan, Province of China". ( ref. http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Taiwan&word2=Taiwan%2C+Province+of+China ) 2) The term "Taiwan, Province of China" is very offensive to people come from Taiwan. It is strange to blindly use a controversial term in standard just because it is a "standard" and ignore the feeling of the people that you are attaching that term to. In the end, I think people have the right to choose what their living place to be called. 3) Even in the US Law, people use the term "Taiwan" to refer to "Taiwan". (ref. http://www.ait.org.tw/en/about_ait/tra/ ) So it is very clear that Taiwan is a better choice because more people use it and less people are offended by it. Wei-Chun. --Apple-Mail-1--407549783 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I support changing it back to = Taiwan for the following reasons.<div><br></div><div>1) As stated in = PR6845, "<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: verdana, = sans-serif; font-size: 11px; ">The FreeBSD installation only wants = to know where you approximately live".</span></div><div><font = class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"verdana, sans-serif" size=3D"3"><span = class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 11px;">For that purpose, = it is most useful to choose a synonym that is recognized by most = people.</span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" = face=3D"verdana, sans-serif" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"font-size: 11px;">If you search these two terms on the web, you = will see that most of the people use "Taiwan" = instead </span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" = face=3D"verdana, sans-serif" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"font-size: 11px;">of "Taiwan, Province of = China".</span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" = face=3D"verdana, sans-serif" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"font-size: 11px;">( ref. <a = href=3D"http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=3Den_GB&word1=3DTaiw= an&word2=3DTaiwan%2C+Province+of+China">http://www.googlefight.com/ind= ex.php?lang=3Den_GB&word1=3DTaiwan&word2=3DTaiwan%2C+Province+of+C= hina</a> )</span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" = face=3D"verdana, sans-serif" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"font-size: 11px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font = class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"verdana, sans-serif" size=3D"3"><span = class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 11px;">2) The term = "Taiwan, Province of China" is very offensive to people come from = Taiwan.</span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" = face=3D"verdana, sans-serif" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"font-size: 11px;">It is strange to blindly use a controversial = term in standard just because it is a "standard" and = ignore </span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" = face=3D"verdana, sans-serif" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"font-size: 11px;">the feeling of the people that you are = attaching that term to. In the end, I = think</span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" = face=3D"verdana, sans-serif" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"font-size: 11px;">people have the right to choose what their = living place to be called.</span></font></div><div><font = class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"verdana, sans-serif" size=3D"3"><span = class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: = 11px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" = face=3D"verdana, sans-serif" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"font-size: 11px;">3) Even in the US Law, people use the term = "Taiwan" to refer to "Taiwan".</span></font></div><div><font = class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"verdana, sans-serif" size=3D"3"><span = class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 11px;">(ref. <a = href=3D"http://www.ait.org.tw/en/about_ait/tra/">http://www.ait.org.tw/en/= about_ait/tra/</a> )</span></font></div><div><font = class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"verdana, sans-serif" size=3D"3"><span = class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: = 11px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" = face=3D"verdana, sans-serif" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"font-size: 11px;">So it is very clear that Taiwan is a better = choice because more people use it and</span></font></div><div><font = class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"verdana, sans-serif" size=3D"3"><span = class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 11px;">less people are = offended by it. </span></font></div><div><font = class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"verdana, sans-serif" size=3D"3"><span = class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: = 11px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" = face=3D"verdana, sans-serif" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"font-size: 11px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font = class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"verdana, sans-serif" size=3D"3"><span = class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: = 11px;">Wei-Chun.</span></font></div></body></html>= --Apple-Mail-1--407549783--
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