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Date:      Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:16:53 -0500
From:      Richard Coleman <richardcoleman@mindspring.com>
To:        Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>
Cc:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Subject:   Re: LOR status page?
Message-ID:  <40623305.7080102@mindspring.com>
In-Reply-To: <p06020472bc87decb745c@[128.113.24.47]>
References:  <4061E990.4000703@alumni.rice.edu> <20040324234650.GA57375@xor.obsecurity.org> <p06020472bc87decb745c@[128.113.24.47]>

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Garance A Drosihn wrote:
> At 3:46 PM -0800 3/24/04, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 02:03:28PM -0600, Jon Noack wrote:
>>  > Would it be helpful to put up a web page with all known lock
>>  > order reversal false positives (or better yet all known lock
>>  > order reversals with a status indication)?  This would allow
>>  > people to check there before reporting, saving everyone time.
>>
>> Clearly we need to do something to stop people reporting the same
>> non-bugs every day, the problem is that it needs to be somewhere
>> people are likely to check.  Maybe a pointer to your proposed
>> webpage in UPDATING will help.
> 
> 
> Could we do something so we don't PRINT the false-positives?  If
> we're about to turn 5.x-current into 5.x-stable, then it is not
> good to tell users "Here are a bunch of error messages that you
> should just ignore".  At least in my experience, what happens is
> that users are much more likely to ignore *all* error messages.
> 
> I have no idea what would need to be done, of course.  I'm just
> uneasy at telling users to ignore scary-looking error messages.
> 
> I do agree that a web page saying exactly which ones to ignore
> would be better than expecting end-users to figure that out by
> scanning the mailing lists...

I'm assuming WITNESS et al. will be turned off by default for 
5.3-stable.  So most users will never see these messages.

And I doubt a webpage will stop folks from reporting this.  Maybe a big 
note at the top of UPDATING would help.

Richard Coleman
richardcoleman@mindspring.com




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