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Date:      Wed, 24 May 2000 00:15:55 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Mike Silbersack <silby@silby.com>
To:        Olaf Hoyer <ohoyer@fbwi.fh-wilhelmshaven.de>
Cc:        freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: BPF vs. promiscuous mode
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0005240010160.19660-100000@achilles.silby.com>
In-Reply-To: <4.1.20000524033815.00a76340@mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de>

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On Wed, 24 May 2000, Olaf Hoyer wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> Well, the IP assignment is not that problem.
> 
> Fact is, that there are run some jobs that check if on some network segment
> is some card present that is in promiscuous mode and /or has its MAC adress
> changed, seen independently from the assigned (via DHCP) IP adress. (Of
> course, you might assign your IP adress manually).
> Are there some programs/techniques that do that?

I'm sure there are programs which can detect such changes, I think someone
mentioned arpwatch?

> BSD or Linux, some program/trick/whatsoever that pretends(return to arp
> queries) a different MAC adress than stored on the ROM of the NIC.

Changing the MAC address of a NIC is extremely simple, it's easily done
even in windows - don't single out students who run unix as troublemakers.

> We have (due to costs) one cenral switch running (3com, IIRC), with about
> of twelve hubs attached, which hold altogether about 235 connections.

I guess the real issue is the question of if your network is configured in
such a way that a student box could take the IP of one of your boxes (dns
server, etc).  If the only issue is students fooling with each other, I
wouldn't worry too much about it, personally.  Though logging as you
mention above certainly can't hurt.

Mike "Silby" Silbersack



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