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Date:      Wed, 20 Sep 2006 14:21:56 -0400
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net>
Cc:        freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Subject:   Re: linux cross-development (was: Re: /dev/null: No such file or directory)
Message-ID:  <20060920182156.GA83026@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <20060920102554.mxditjplogkscw44@webmail.leidinger.net>
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On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 10:25:54AM +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
> Quoting Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> (from Tue, 19 Sep 2006 =20
> 21:41:27 -0400):
>=20
> >What happened to the linux_devtools port (which is supposed to take
> >care of this) - was it never updated to parity with linux_base?
>=20
> No. There are several reasons.
>=20
> The current devtools port is a mess and interfered with the old =20
> linux_base port in undesirable ways (can't remember exactly how, I =20
> would have to have a look at it again). Bringing it into shape would =20
> be a lot of work (nobody stepped up so far, but I didn't asked for =20
> help for this because of the next reason).
>=20
> To cross-develop you need a full system, the linux_base port is a lean =
=20
> and mean system. The current linux_base port is designed to extend the =
=20
> FreeBSD system and to provide a good user experience for those ports =20
> which are available in the ports collection (and most probably for a =20
> lot of other applications). We rely on the fallthrough to the native =20
> stuff in various places (e.g. we have symlinks to the corresponding =20
> FreeBSD configs where it applies). Doing a chroot into /compat/linux =20
> may work for some use cases, but not for all (and you need to do a =20
> chroot for cross-compiling, else you may pickup FreeBSD native stuff =20
> and get a lot of trouble) and it is not advised to to a chroot into it =
=20
> (I should add a note about this to the port...).

OK, but under linux_base-8 it was enough to install the linux_devtools
and then chroot, in order to compile linux stuff; in fact this was
precisely the purpose of the linux_devtools port.

Hopefully this will be addressed soon, it would be a shame to lose
this functionality.  Is anyone working on it?

Kris

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