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Date:      Fri, 14 May 2004 10:12:47 -0300
From:      Fernando Schapachnik <fernando@mecon.gov.ar>
To:        Jan Grant <Jan.Grant@bristol.ac.uk>
Cc:        Patrick Baker <PBaker@outpost.com>
Subject:   Re: How do fix a good solution against spam..
Message-ID:  <20040514131247.GH306@bal740r0.mecon.gov.ar>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0405141344200.6861@mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk>
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En un mensaje anterior, Jan Grant escribió:
> On Fri, 14 May 2004, Fernando Schapachnik wrote:
> 
> > I don't know TMDA in depth, but with ASK, that most probably wouldn't happen.
> > Here's why: every user has to define a "mailkey", which is some phrase that is
> > present in his .sig. Nowadays is pretty common to get replies quoting the
> > full message. ASK delivers (and also whitelists, if so configured) mail
> > containing your mailkey.
> 
> So, it's a hack that is defeated by decent sig-stripping mail clients,
> and adds (dubious) value to the practice of including the entirety of a
> message.

Not really. Your mailkey can be just your name written in a particular way
(maybe including an initial or second name), so the tipical "John S. Doe wrote:"
quote will sufice. And its rare that "customized" spams uses that much info.

Anyway, is not bulletproof, but like I said previously, it cut my spam intake
from a lot to zero, with zero lost email.

> These systems are rude. They're also broken. They offload personal
> effort from the user onto other members of the internet community. That
> makes them antisocial too.  And come to mention it, if someone invites

I disagree. It asks for a little colaboration from someone that wants to contact
you in order to defeat a bigger, common enemy. Being it a one timer, is not that
different from a 3-way handshake.

Guess we are really off-topic here.

Regards.

Fernando.



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