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Date:      Wed, 27 Jun 2018 19:58:39 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Devin Teske <dteske@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org>, Warner Losh <imp@freebsd.org>,  src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all@freebsd.org,  svn-src-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r335690 - head/sys/kern
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On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 7:49 PM, Devin Teske <dteske@freebsd.org> wrote:

>
> On Jun 27, 2018, at 5:59 PM, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 04:11:09AM +0000, Warner Losh wrote:
>> W> Author: imp
>> W> Date: Wed Jun 27 04:11:09 2018
>> W> New Revision: 335690
>> W> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/335690
>> W>
>> W> Log:
>> W>   Fix devctl generation for core files.
>> W>
>> W>   We have a problem with vn_fullpath_global when the file exists. Work
>> W>   around it by printing the full path if the core file name starts
>> with /,
>> W>   or current working directory followed by the filename if not.
>>
>> Is this going to work when a core is dumped not at current working
>> directory,
>> but at absolute path? e.g. kern.corefile=/var/log/cores/%N.core
>>
>
> Yes. That works.
>
>
>> Looks like the vn_fullpath_global needs to be fixed rather than problem
>> workarounded.
>>
>
> It can't be fixed reliably. FreeBSD does not and cannot map a vnode to a
> name. The only reason we're able to at all is due to the name cache. And
> when we recreate a file, we invalidate the name cache. And even if we fixed
> that, there's no guarantee the name cache won't get flushed before we
> translate the name.... Linux can do this because it keeps the path name
> associated with the inode. FreeBSD simply doesn't.
>
>
> They said it couldn't be done, but I personally have done it ...
>
> I map vnodes to full paths in dwatch. It's not impossible, just
> implausibly hard.
>
> I derived my formula by reading the C code which was very twisty-turny and
> rather hard to read at times (and I have been using C since 1998 on
> everything from AIX and OSF/1 to HP/UX, Cygwin, MinGW, FreeBSD, countless
> Linux-like things, IRIX, and a God-awful remainder of many others; the
> vnode code was an adventure to say the least).
>
> You're welcome to see how it's done in /usr/libexec/dwatch/vop_create
>
> I load up a clause-local variable named "path" with a path constructed
> from a pointer to a vnode structure argument to VOP_CREATE(9).
>
> The D code could easily be rewritten back into C to walk the vnode to
> completion (compared to the D code which is bounded by depth-limit since
> DTrace doesn't provide loops; so you have to, as I have done, use a
> higher-level language wrapper to repeat the code to some desired limit;
> dwatch defaulting to 64 for directory depth limit).
>
> Compared this, say, to vfssnoop.d from Chapter 5 of the DTrace book which
> utilizes the vfs:namei:lookup: probes. My approach in dwatch is far more
> accurate, produces full paths, and I've benchmarked it at lower overhead
> with better results.
>
> Maybe some of this can be useful? If not, just ignore me.
>

IMHO, there's no benefit from the crazy hoops than the super simple
heuristic I did: if the path starts with / print it. If the path doesn't
print cwd / and then the path.

I look forward to seeing your conversion of the D to C that works, even
when there's namespace cache pressure.

Warner



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