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Date:      Sun, 13 Feb 2005 17:48:32 +0100
From:      "Devon H. O'Dell" <dodell@sitetronics.com>
To:        freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: The only worthwhile logo-related comments so far....
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In-Reply-To: <1318262351.20050213174505@wanadoo.fr>
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On Sun, 2005-02-13 at 17:45 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
> Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg writes:
> 
> > Linux is controlled by Linus Torvalds, who clearly is outnumbered
> > by core by an order of magnitute. I fail to see why core 
> > directing the project makes it impossible to gain support from 
> > IBM or any other giant.
> 
> It's not that it makes it impossible to get support, it's just that the
> support isn't there right now, which may worry potential users.
> 
> And since Linux is controlled by Linus, that provides a target to aim
> for if something goes wrong.  Large customers experiencing problems with
> Linux could potentially make life very unpleasant for Linus, which in
> turn is an incentive for him to remain disciplined and careful, which in
> turn reassures large customers.
> 
> Essentially large customers want accountability and responsibility. They
> want people who will respond if something goes wrong, and they want
> people who are at risk if something goes wrong, because that risk
> motivates them to act to fix any problems that arise. These elements are
> lacking with FreeBSD, because nobody in particular seems to be obligated
> to respond if something goes wrong, and nobody in particular seems to be
> at any specific risk if he or she fails to fix a problem. This means
> that large customers must take a lot of risk themselves without any
> compensating risk on the part of the organization supplying the
> software.

Sorry, but this simply isn't true. Nobody from Linux is required to
respond to your problems, unless you've paid a company (IBM, RedHat,
etc) to do so. If this is precisely what you mean and you think there is
no support for FreeBSD whatsoever, I reiterate: there are several
companies, inclusive Offmyserver, who provide FreeBSD support for their
customers.

Please stop attaching these threads to questions@; they're off-topic
there.

--Devon



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