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Date:      Wed, 29 Nov 2017 09:38:10 -0700
From:      James Gritton <jamie@gritton.org>
To:        freebsd-jail@freebsd.org
Cc:        Kristof Provost <kristof@sigsegv.be>, Matthias Meyser <matthias@harz.de>
Subject:   Re: IPSEC in VNET Jails
Message-ID:  <99043e609d69713e651f9c2d53549ad8@gritton.org>
In-Reply-To: <C93BA264-A200-4448-8F52-D9E347F066CF@sigsegv.be>
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On 2017-11-29 06:05, Kristof Provost wrote:
> On 29 Nov 2017, at 13:42, Matthias Meyser wrote:
>> Am 29.11.2017 um 12:40 schrieb Kristof Provost:
>>> I stand by my initial assessment that VNET is not sufficiently stable 
>>> in stable/11 to encourage its use there.
>>> There are still issues with IPSec, even in head. See 
>>> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D13017 for some more information on that.
>>> Those issues are being addressed in head, but I do not expect VNET to 
>>> ever become robust in 11.
>> 
>> I could not find any bug report about those problems.
> The issue discussed in D13017 was discovered by the new tests. There’s
> no bug report yet, and there probably won’t be one as it’ll likely get
> fixed in the next couple of days.
> 
>> As there are test (your link) that are failing I would expect some 
>> sort of bug report.
>> 
> They’re new tests. The tests haven’t been committed yet.
> 
>> If VNET support in /etc/rc.d/ipsec is too "encouraging users" why is 
>> it in /etc/rc.d/[routing|netif|ipfw]. I just don't get it.
>> 
> You’d have to ask jamie@, but I’d speculate that as this was done
> earlier in the development of vnet so the issues that cause my
> hesitation now may not have been considered then.
> Also, routing is a more common code path than IPSec, thus more likely
> to be tested and less likely to explode. (Although that wouldn’t apply
> to ipfw.)

I'm afraid I'm no more a vnet expert than anyone else around here.  
While I did the bit that put vnet under the auspices of jails, I didn't 
have anything to do with the actual networking side of things.  On such 
esoteric things as how safe is 11 vs Current, I really have no idea.

- Jamie



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