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Date:      Sat, 2 Feb 2002 02:07:36 -0600 (CST)
From:      Matt Heckaman <matt@LUCIDA.CA>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.ORG, <stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Junior Annoying Hacker Task
Message-ID:  <20020202020323.C5891-100000@epsilon.lucida.ca>
In-Reply-To: <3C5B477D.DCAE125E@mindspring.com>

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On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Terry Lambert wrote:
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: Determining "source-ability" by sourcing is dangerous.

Well, you said make sure it's "sourcable" -- not "source it" :)

: You would need to do a "chroot", or run it as a non-priviledged user,
: for the purposes of testing, and you would not be able to see some side
: effects, if the file contained code, even then.

Yeah, but we've also got a file edited by root and root alone, why would
root be trying to add all kinds of code in it? I think rc.conf will be
failing as it is if people add certain code in it, what do we lose?

: Also, people use "vipw" because if you don't, the database doesn't get
: rebuilt.  There's no corresponding force to make them use it for "virc".

You can rebuild the database manually *ducks* -- I know what you're saying
though, and I've used things similar to vipw for other daemon config files
that had no databases simply for the safety of checking syntax.

: All that aside, I'll admit that it would be better than what's there.

Yep :)

: But of course, that's more of a "Junior Hacker" than a "Junior Annoying
: Hacker" task, and, really, what we are trying to do here is raise up
: someone to compete with Albert for number of complaints.  8-) 8-o 8-O
: }B^).

:)

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