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Date:      Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:29:27 -0500
From:      "Jeremy Messenger" <mezz7@cox.net>
To:        "Nikolas Britton" <nikolas.britton@gmail.com>
Cc:        Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>, Peter Jeremy <peterjeremy@optushome.com.au>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Do we need this junk?
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On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 15:06:20 -0500, Nikolas Britton  
<nikolas.britton@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 4/6/07, Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> wrote:
>> On 2007-04-06 08:40, Nikolas Britton <nikolas.britton@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I don't appreciate being called a lier. Maybe you should step up to
>> > the plate if you don't believe my statistics.
>> >
>> > AMD Semptron 1,259
>> > AMD Athlon_64 2,796
>> > AMD Athlon_XP 2,885
>> > AMD Athlon 812
>> > AMD Duron 741
>> > AMD Opteron 625
>> > AMD Turion_64 175
>> >
>> > Intel Pentium_4 8,768
>> > Intel Pentium_4M 291
>> > Intel Pentium_M 1,722
>> > Intel Pentium_3M 233
>> > Intel Pentium_3 6,362
>> > Intel Pentium_D 982
>> > Intel Pentium_2 1,872
>> > Intel Celeron_P2 888
>> > Intel Celeron_P3 529
>> > Intel Celeron_P4 4,224
>> > Intel Celeron_M 299
>> > Intel Xeon_P4 2,380
>> > Intel Core 1,246
>> >
>> > Generic i786 1
>> > Generic i686_SSE 33
>> > Generic i686_MMX 114
>> > Generic i686 298
>> > Generic i586_MMX 520
>> > Generic i586 261
>> > Generic i486 30
>> > Unknown 99
>> >
>> > Data source: http://www.bsdstats.org/cpus.php
>>
>> A lot of people are running "bsdstats" ports, and we should appreciate
>> the work people have put into making http://www.bsdstats.org/ happen.
>>
>> I'm not sure I agree with the use you are putting these statistics into,
>> whatever.
>>
>> The original goal of the statistics pages was to serve as a basis of
>> version-related and hardware-related information, which can be used to
>> convince hardware vendors to support *MORE* FreeBSD systems.
>>
>> Now you are arguing that because more modern CPUs and hardware are,
>> well, "more modern", we should start dropping support for some of the
>> systems listed there -- effectivelly reducing the number of systems
>> supported by FreeBSD.
>>
>
> I only suggested dropping PC98. Why? If you look at the PC98 page* it
> hasn't been updated since FreeBSD 4.11 and bsdstats.org shows zero

What make you think that bsdstats is a realistic one? All of my machines  
do not have bsdstats installed, so there are hundreds or thousands of  
machines out there that do not have it installed either.

> people using it... PC98 is a  dead platform like Alpha and Alpha
> support is being dropped for FreeBSD 7, but if you look at
> bsdstats.org the Alpha platform has more users than sparc, powerpc and
> pc98 combined!!


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