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Date:      Thu, 29 May 2003 17:31:32 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
To:        Glenn Johnson <glennpj@charter.net>
Cc:        Dan Nelson <dnelson@allantgroup.com>
Subject:   Re: Libthr stable enough for testing
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0305291730571.47588-100000@InterJet.elischer.org>
In-Reply-To: <20030529230020.GA24085@gforce.johnson.home>

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On Thu, 29 May 2003, Glenn Johnson wrote:

> On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 03:54:22PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Thu, 29 May 2003, Glenn Johnson wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 02:20:02AM -0400, Mike Makonnen wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, 29 May 2003 00:35:32 -0500 Dan Nelson
> > > > <dnelson@allantgroup.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > The real problem is in the kernel, though.  A userland non-root
> > > > > process should not be able to hard lock the system.  One of the
> > > > > threads people will probably have to get an SMP machine to be
> > > > > able to debug it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Upon first reading it I had assumed he meant gnome locked up. Can
> > > > you confirm this Glenn? Is the machine itself locked solid (no
> > > > ping, no ssh, not vtys, etc)?  However, even if that is the case a
> > > > bug in the kernel does not preclude a bug in libthr.
> > >
> > > The machine locks up solid.  I can not do anything with it except   
> > > hit the reset button.  I mentioned gnome because gnome will trigger 
> > > the lock up.  I would imagine I would see the same thing with kde   
> > > however.                                                            
> >
> > what about kernel debugger?
> 
> I do not have the debugger enabled on the SMP box.  I can set that up
> but probably not until next week.  Will the debugger work if the machine
> locks up?

that depends..
when it locked up, did it still respond to pings?
> 



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