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Date:      Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:20:12 -0800
From:      "Joe S" <js.lists@gmail.com>
To:        "Maxim Khitrov" <mkhitrov@gmail.com>
Cc:        Glen Barber <glen.j.barber@gmail.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Release schedules
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On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Maxim Khitrov <mkhitrov@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Glen Barber <glen.j.barber@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Maxim Khitrov <mkhitrov@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> For example, RC2 builds were scheduled for 29 September 2008. When
>>> that day comes (or same week perhaps), whoever has the ability to
>>> change the release schedule page should update it regardless of what
>>> happened. If RC2 builds started, that should be reflected in the
>>> 'actual' column. Otherwise, if it's a minor change in the timeline,
>>> put the new expected date in. As is the case of 7.1 release, if the
>>> person honestly has no idea when RC2 will happen, put in 'December',
>>> 'January', 'Second half of January'... 'Sometime next year' if it's
>>> that uncertain. Anything at all; it takes 5 minutes to do. In the
>>> worst case, your estimate will need to be updated again in a month or
>>> two. In the best case, the release will be made before the expected
>>> date. I, for one, promise not to complain about that. :)
>>>
>>
>> If the sacrifice is an out-of-date column in a webpage while bugs are
>> being worked out, in my opinion, that's fine with me.  (IMHO)
>
> My point was that it shouldn't be one or the other. Taking a few
> minutes to update the web page does not interfere with the debugging
> process. It also doesn't force developers to follow that timeline. It
> is simply an indication to the users what their expectations should be
> at the present time.
>
> - Max

Again, I wonder if the reason for the delays is that too much work is
being taken on for each release. I agree that FreeBSD should be
released when it is done and quality is of utmost importance. Perhaps
it would be better to focus on adding a few less features than
planned, so that they can be implemented well and on time.

I admit, I am not part of the project, and in the end, I have no idea
what's going on. I just know that other projects with FAR less
developers have found a way to do this, so it's not *that* hard.



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