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Date:      Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:26:12 +1000
From:      Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au>
To:        Mark Ovens <marko@uk.radan.com>
Cc:        "Michael P. Sale" <mike@merchantsnet.com>, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, dmlb@ragnet.demon.co.uk
Subject:   Re: mtools use
Message-ID:  <19980408222612.43377@welearn.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <352B6955.DD52844F@uk.radan.com>; from Mark Ovens on Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 01:11:01PM %2B0100
References:  <01bd6296$aece1600$5006bccc@708644668> <352B28B2.5BDE9363@uk.radan.com> <19980408194800.21697@welearn.com.au> <352B6955.DD52844F@uk.radan.com>

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On Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 01:11:01PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote:
> Sue Blake wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 08:35:14AM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote:
> > 
> > >       Note! This will not work if you have a password set for root (which
> > > would probably be the case in a commercial environment, but not
> > > necessarily on a home machine).
> > 
> > That sounds extremely dangerous to me.
> > One day someone you've told might convince you how dangerous it is.
> > Meanwhile I hope it doesn't become fashionable among those who are not as
> > well able to appreciate the consequences of having no root password.
> > 
> 
> Yes, you are quite correct, we (I) shouldn't be encouraging people,
> especially new users, to run without a root password. It's just 8 years
> of working on Unix systems many of which do not have a root password has
> got me into bad habits, together with never having trashed a system
> because of it (putting that in writing will probably guarantee I'll do
> an 'rm -rf /*' as root in the next couple of days ;-) ) has made me
> complacent.

In my feeble experience, every time something looks like a great idea
that'll make life easier it's a security risk or worse. I tend to play it
all very boring these days, just to be sure. There's lots of people out
there who could do a lot worse with my system than I do, if I gave them
half a chance to try. On the Internet the world sits at your keyboard.

> I see someone else has posted a message suggesting making mount_msdos a
> setuid file which will allow non-root users to run it. Whilst this is
> still a bit risky it is much better than not having a root password and
> is an acceptable compromise for mounting floppies. Just don't get
> carried away and make all executable files setuid.
> 
> I consider my wrists well & truly slapped :-(

:-) No slap intended, I just panicked.


-- 

Regards,
        -*Sue*-

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