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Date:      Tue, 6 Aug 2002 21:43:19 -0400 (EDT)
From:      "Mike" <root@unixhideout.com>
To:        <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: I kindly need your assistance.
Message-ID:  <1935.192.168.1.10.1028684599.squirrel@email.unixhideout.com>
In-Reply-To: <20020806212747.K86473-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net>
References:  <861y9bpir3.fsf@ralf.artlogix.com> <20020806212747.K86473-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net>

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> On 6 Aug 2002, Ken McGlothlen wrote:
>> Ganesh Kumar <alganesh@m-net.arbornet.org> writes:
>> | But the problem is with "communication". When I was taking care of
>> mail | servers, we got spam(and email bombs too) from a particular
>> webhost. But | making the admin understand our problem was a pain for
>> me ! (bcos, it | originated from taiwan )
>>
>> In most cases, I don't block unless there's a significant problem
>> getting the offending ISP to take the complaint seriously.  After
>> blocking some fifty or sixty hosts in South Korea and China, I finally
>> had to get proactive.  It's not really up to me to convince them that
>> there's a problem; I figure if their customers can't send mail where
>> they wish, that eventually they'll realize that *they* have a problem
>> that needs to be addressed.
>>
>> Nobody likes being on an isolated intranet, and I think that should be
>> the natural consequence of being an inconsiderate netizen.
>>
>> | If someone can block the legitimate spams to the list (from freebsd
>> group) | atleast and prevent mails from that address alone ,would save
>> us :)
>>
>> Well, I don't think the FreeBSD lists should necessarily be as
>> aggressive about
>
> Hello - just wanted to chime in my two-cents, seeing as this thread has
> an ALL CAPS Subject line *sarcastic, cynical grin*
>
> It isn't so much a matter of our beloved list(s) becoming aggressive,
> per se, but I think with so much cool technology and CGI coding
> techniques, you'd think there would be a way to strike out spams as you
> go to read your Inbox, if not block receipt of them.
>
> Was that at all clear?
>
> For example, I just glimpsed two emails in a row on this list about
> COPYING DVDS INSTANTLY or some crap.  I wish there were a way for list
> members to go to the FreeBSD website and mail lists area, enter their
> own email address, copy/paste the entire line of the "Message-ID:"
> (because all spams have one I assume), then click a submit button saying
> something like [Start a Spam Report].
>
> The cgi script would email a one-time token, either a URL for the
> reporter to click on or some kind of long mangled horribly unique
> subject line for the reporter to reply back with.
>
>> spam as I've been---but I have to admit that I wouldn't mind.  If I
>> were a customer of some ISP, and I lost a valuable resource because my
>> ISP was ineffective at controlling spam from their site, I'd switch
>> ISPs.  Eventually, the ISP would get the hint.
>
> ISPs do not get the hint.  I worked at one (good one) for nearly three
> years and we constantly dealt with OTHER sites that were terribly lax.
>
> A dollar is a dollar.  :(
>
> PS - Oops, this isn't directly about FreeBSD questions, apologies.
>
> --
> Peter Leftwich
> President & Founder
> Video2Video Services
> Box 13692, La Jolla, CA, 92039 USA
> +1-413-403-9555


I just want you to realize that spam on this list would not be half as bad
if people didnt constantly have to reply to them over and over, Like i am
doing right now out of complete annoyance. Can we please kill this thread
and move on to something different? Its been what four days now? Take it
to chat or reply to the sender and not 7000 people.. Dont get me wrong. I
am no better then any of you, and when i was first on this list i made a
lot of mistakes. (i still do) but i learn from them. thats whats
important. Do the same.



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