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Date:      Tue, 20 Oct 1998 22:25:56 -0500
From:      "Jeffrey J. Mountin" <jeff-ml@mountin.net>
To:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>, "Steve Friedrich" <SteveFriedrich@Hot-Shot.com>, "Studded" <Studded@gorean.org>
Cc:        "bugs@FreeBSD.ORG" <bugs@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: No terminal echo after certain commands
Message-ID:  <3.0.3.32.19981020222556.01047304@207.227.119.2>
In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981020191142.06b355b0@mail.lariat.org>
References:  <199810210058.UAA30643@laker.net>

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At 07:15 PM 10/20/98 -0600, Brett Glass wrote:
>At 08:57 PM 10/20/98 -0400, Steve Friedrich wrote:
> 
>>It REALLY shouldn't be fixed.  It is important to keep INTR handling to
>>the minimum possible exit code possible. Adding "clean-up" code will
>>add potential that programs will "hang" in this clean up code and INTR
>>will no longer work all the time for that program.  
>
>It's possible that anything programmed badly will hang. However, failure
>to return the console to usability after a quick exit is not optional.
>Otherwise, it does no good to make a quick exit.
>
>>This is all caused
>>by someone who doesn't understand UNIX signals and what they were
>>designed for.
>
>Sorry, but you're not only insulting but wrong. I've been using UNIX
>since 1977.
>
>>I'd bet he is a current or former DOS or Winblows user
>>who developed this bad habit there.

Ala /p?

>You're arguing ad hominem. Which is especially dangerous when you
>have no idea whom you're talking about.
>
>Again, ANY way of interrupting a program shouldn't leave the
>console unusable.

Have you ever had a case where you absolutely *had* to ^C?  Or ^T or ^Z?

By now one should have found using 1 keystroke "q" easier than a
combination "CTL-c". </facetious>

Doug's point is along line that only a novice would try this and hopefully
read the man page and learn about the "q" exit command.

I agree in principle, but this also follow the "cat" thread a while back.
Oddly enough there are many examples that cat files (not in a script) in
the Handbook.

At least it doesn't want escape-enter.  ;)


Jeff Mountin - Unix Systems TCP/IP networking
jeff@mountin.net

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