Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:36:00 +0100 From: Ivan Voras <ivoras@freebsd.org> To: Erik Trulsson <ertr1013@student.uu.se> Cc: src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, obrien@freebsd.org, Dmitry Marakasov <amdmi3@amdmi3.ru>, svn-src-head@freebsd.org, Hartmut Brandt <hartmut.brandt@dlr.de> Subject: Re: svn commit: r187132 - head/usr.bin/make Message-ID: <9bbcef730901300936u57b5ef8cn8b33cdb5efae97eb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20090130142035.GA90484@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <200901130653.n0D6rrNX092719@svn.freebsd.org> <20090130015518.GA20404@hades.panopticon> <20090130113402.GB92386@dragon.NUXI.org> <9bbcef730901300402q61273d58q76472e585985fc3c@mail.gmail.com> <20090130123711.GA89940@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <4982FEF1.2000309@dlr.de> <20090130142035.GA90484@owl.midgard.homeip.net>
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2009/1/30 Erik Trulsson <ertr1013@student.uu.se>: > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 02:21:53PM +0100, Hartmut Brandt wrote: >> Erik Trulsson wrote: >> > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 01:02:15PM +0100, Ivan Voras wrote: >> >> 2009/1/30 David O'Brien <obrien@freebsd.org>: >> >> >> >>> compiler invocation must really bug you. Perhaps we should have the >> >>> quiet out put of the ncftp3 build where every complication takes only >> >>> 1 line: >> >>> >> >>> Compiling DStrCat.so: [OK] >> >>> Compiling DStrFree.so: [OK] >> >>> Compiling Dynscpy.so: [OK] >> >>> Compiling Strncpy.so: [OK] >> >>> Compiling strtokc.so: [OK] >> >>> ..snip.. >> >> I'd vote for that being the default :) >> > >> > I would not. In fact I am quite happy that is not the default. >> > >> >> It's also the mode used by Linux kernel (note that it's not a pro or a >> >> contra argument in itself), e.g. >> > >> > True, and it is a PITA when there is a problem with the compilation, since >> > you need to add extra flags to the verbose output so you can find out what >> > flags the compiler actually was invoked with. >> >> I took that vote as a joke. It may only be a joke, right? > > It might well have been a joke. Probably was in fact, but I am not willing > to take any chances on that. I hoped that the over-the-top youtube video soundtrack would be a cue :) I was sure there was a video with parts of the Matrix soundtrack somewhere but I couldn't find it... But still, it's a long distance between what developers want and what users want. In this case, the best thing for non-developer users would be not to compile the system themselves but use bsdupdate for upgrading, so it makes sense to keep the build process tailored for developers. (on-topic: I've used FreeBSD since 4.2, I don't care what was in 4.4BSD).
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