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Date:      Tue, 17 Nov 2015 21:53:53 +1100
From:      Outback Dingo <outbackdingo@gmail.com>
To:        Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Mark Heily <mark@heily.com>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: relaunchd: a portable clone of launchd
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On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On 11/16/15 8:55 AM, Mark Heily wrote:
>
>> I've written a clone of the launchd framework found in Mac OS X [1].
>> It's called "relaunchd" and I would like to some help improving it and
>> getting it added to the FreeBSD ports tree [2].
>>
> It would appear we have an embarrassment of riches.
> Someone correct me if I'm wrong but we have:
> * nosh
> * actual launchd with jkh's project
> * now relaunchd
> and of course some people like the flexibility and debugability of rc.d
> and are improving these.
>
> Can someone more connected with these projects please sumarise what's
> going on and maybe we can find a set of people with egos flexible enough
> that we can maybe figure out the stengths of each of these and maybe make
> something truely great?
>
>

well... to sum it up....

originially there is launchd_xml which was completed in 2007, which i
belive is the first working launchd port, then came along openrc ported and
used by the archbsd, know knows as pacbsd guys, which is a side point but
still a replacement.

nosh appeared and seems to have some development, though also has opinions

to continue into 2014, launchd is it current form with mach bits started in
the trueos/freenas development plan, somewhere in mid-215 that got spun
into NextBSD, then came wind of relaunchd.


so there exists currently
launchd_xml from 07
openrc
nosh
launchd/asld/notifyd and mach 2014
releaunchd

and I know simply because I was connected to the original launchd_xml, and
am connected to the current launchd NextBSD project as are others on the
list. Hope this clears it up.


>
>
>
>> Here's the source code:
>>
>>      https://github.com/mheily/relaunchd
>>
>> One of the coolest things I've been able to do with it is to use
>> socket activation to launch an unmodified version of Apache inside of
>> a jail, pass it a socket descriptor bound to port 80 from the primary
>> network interface outside of the jail, and have it "just work" and
>> start serving web content using the pre-existing socket descriptor.
>> This eliminates the need to setup a cumbersome NAT and port forwarding
>> mechanism for each jail [3].
>>
>> This is a completely separate line of development from the work that
>> the NextBSD folks are doing to port the published Apple source code
>> for launchd and all of it's dependencies.
>>
>> I'd be happy to answer questions about relaunchd, and welcome
>> contributions from anyone who wants to help make launchd on FreeBSD a
>> reality.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>   - Mark
>>
>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Launchd
>> [2] https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=204240
>> [3] Example: http://kbeezie.com/freebsd-jail-single-ip/
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