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Date:      Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:46:44 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        groggy@iname.com
Cc:        FreeBSD Questions <questions@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: package + gnu answers + mail Q.
Message-ID:  <20000406144644.F73669@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <200004060247.CAA06696@groggy.anchorage.ptialaska.net>
References:  <200004060247.CAA06696@groggy.anchorage.ptialaska.net>

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Please copy -questions on your replies.  I don't answer private
questions for free.

On Thursday,  6 April 2000 at  2:47:40 +0000, groggy@iname.com wrote:
>>> ps. it seems my favorite maillist and a few others these days
>>>     block mail originating from a server with a private IP
>>>     behind a proxying gateway.  is there i way i can continue
>>>     to use my own sendmail to mail from my FBSD machine behind
>>>     a proxying gateway?  is my only choice to use the proxies
>>>     mailserver to send mail?  this sucks for various reasons.
>>>
>>> more and more my email bounces with "originating domain must exist"
>>> messages. :(
>>
>> This problem is indicative of the general quality of ISPs nowadays.
>> The only good reason not to have reverse mapping is in order to spam.
>> If your ISP is too stupid to set up reverse mapping, you probably
>> want to change anyway.
>
> what do you mean?  how can my ISP reverse map my private IP numbers?
> if i send from 192.168.0.26 or whatever ...

They can't.  But they're not the addresses that get posted, they're
the ISPs address.

> i don't understand why they are stupid.

Because they're not sticking to the DNS conventions, and (in case you
hadn't noticed) they're causing you problems as a result.  Look:

+ > ptialaska.net
+ Server:  freebie.lemis.com
+ Address:  0.0.0.0
+
+ ptialaska.net
+  origin = ns2.ptialaska.net
+  mail addr = dnstech.ptialaska.net
+  serial = 2000032701
+  refresh = 10800 (3H)
+  retry   = 3600 (1H)
+  expire  = 604800 (1W)
+  minimum ttl = 14400 (4H)
+ ptialaska.net nameserver = ns1.ptialaska.net
+ ptialaska.net nameserver = ns2.ptialaska.net
+ ptialaska.net nameserver = ns3.ptialaska.net
+ ns1.ptialaska.net internet address = 209.193.30.248
+ ns2.ptialaska.net internet address = 209.193.30.245
+ ns3.ptialaska.net internet address = 208.151.127.1
+ > 209.193.30.248
+ Server:  freebie.lemis.com
+ Address:  0.0.0.0
+
+ *** freebie.lemis.com can't find 209.193.30.248: Non-existent host/domain
+
+ > 209.193.30.245
+ Server:  freebie.lemis.com
+ Address:  0.0.0.0
+
+ *** freebie.lemis.com can't find 209.193.30.245: Non-existent host/domain
+ > 208.151.127.1
+ Server:  freebie.lemis.com
+ Address:  0.0.0.0
+
+ *** freebie.lemis.com can't find 208.151.127.1: Non-existent host/domain

Not even their name servers reverse map.

Greg
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