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Date:      Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:41:49 +0100
From:      Polytropon <>
To:        Manolis Kiagias <>
Cc:, "Ronald F. Guilmette" <>
Subject:   Re: Trivial questions about CNTL-ALT-DEL and CNTL-ALT-BACKSPACE
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:21:28 +0200, Manolis Kiagias <> wrote:
> Just the fact that I now have to edit an xml file to simply add a Greek
> keyboard layout is annoying enough.

The fact that annoys me is that configuration seems to have
disassembled into several parts that are not located in a
central file (such as xorg.conf has been); I have no problem
with editing text files if I need to, but now it's getting
somewhat complicated - I'm not confortable with the fact that
FreeBSD is (getting) complicated, I always loved it because
everything is so simple.

> Combine with the fact that for some reason keyboard / mouse may or may
> not be detected depending on the machine, phase of the moon etc, 
> needing AutoAddInputDevices and AllowEmptyInput hacks, I'd call it
> nightmare on HAL street...

This famous quote comes to mind:

	HAL: Look Dave, I can see you're really upset
	about this. I honestly think you ought to sit
	down calmly, take a stress pill, and think
	things over. ...

Maybe this is all fine as long as you have up-to-date hardware
that will deliver all the data needed for the autodetection
and autoconfiguration magic, but what's if you're *insisting*
on using a 21" Eizo CRT and a three button Sun mouse (where the
middle mouse button does both middle-click and wheel)? And then
I really ask myself: Will the xmodmap "hack" (i. e. or i. has
been the canonical way) still work for my Sun keyboard that I
insist on using?

> But that's enough ranting for tonight, I had an entire blog post
> complaining about it.

But I am not complaining! :-) I've been told that those changes
are absolutely needed to design the creation of new software
more efficiently and cheaper; this is often confused with "bloat",
but it's not, it's evolution! And there's no way around.

I would be more happy if things would really get better, or
even not worse, but sadly, they seem to. Software gets slower
as well as less accessible - Gtk 2, used by many programs, is
a good (bad) example. Am I supposed to buy new computer to replace
perfectly running systems just to keep the "overall usage speed"
of everything at the same level?

Oh wait, that's economy.

	Let us be thankful we have commerce.
	Buy more.
	Buy more now.
	And be happy.

So much from the famous quoting department. :-)

> Let's just hope we can cope with the documentation
> changes so we have some place to resort to!

I hope "documentation" refers to "how documentation should be
properly done, and how it IS done in FreeBSD", and not the
(sorry) Linux way of documentation. :-)

Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...

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