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Date:      Mon, 09 Dec 1996 19:11:51 -0800
From:      Amancio Hasty <hasty@rah.star-gate.com>
To:        dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu
Cc:        multimedia@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: GUS & Mbone: more updates 
Message-ID:  <199612100311.TAA00526@rah.star-gate.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 09 Dec 1996 16:41:37 PST." <Pine.BSI.3.94.961209162258.1592A-100000@gdi.uoregon.edu> 

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>From The Desk Of Doug White :
> Hello again...
> 
> After I replaced my VAT with a full duplex version from rah, the looping
> and popping and whatnot has stopped.  I've been watching the IETF stuff
> for several hours now and it works like a charm.  The only annoying thing
> is that the audio cuts out every so often, but I think this is from
> problems at the gateway or transmitter at ietf2.bbnplanet.com so I'm not
> worried about it. 

Play a little with vat if you <right> click mouse on the transmitting
source <the text region> you will be able to start an rtp stats window
which will let you know if vat is dropping packets or not.


> I've noticed that the volume bars lag quite a bit behind the audio, such
> that I've just turned them off.  Any ideas behind that?  
> 
> The thing that does worry me is the excessive debugging output from the
> kernel.  I get lots of these:
> 
> isa_dmastart: channel 1 busy
> isa_dmastart: channel 3 busy

Just comment out in /sys/i386/isa/isa.c the diagnostic message.

 
> I know this is a silly stupid thing, but I can't remeber where this is at.
> Someone have the patch?  (BTW:  these pop up whenever I jump between vats
> (I'm watching both IETF channels currently), and just every so often.  Any
> guesses why both the play and record DMAs bounce?
> 
> Secondly, when I was using the half-duplex vat, I got a lot of these
> lines:
> 
> Dec  8 23:55:26 gdi /kernel: write select 1
> Dec  8 23:55:27 gdi last message repeated 672 times
> Dec  8 23:55:27 gdi /kernel: isa_dmastart: channel 3 busy
> Dec  8 23:55:29 gdi /kernel: write select 0
> Dec  8 23:55:29 gdi last message repeated 4 times
> Dec  8 23:55:29 gdi /kernel: write select 1
> Dec  8 23:55:31 gdi /kernel: write select 0
> Dec  8 23:55:31 gdi last message repeated 4 times

Thats my fault just get rid of my debuggin message .
It is in audio.c:

audio.c:      printf("write select %d\n", foo);

> Here is the interesting part.  The audio was clear until the 'channel 3
> busy' message came up.  Then I got the write select 0's interspersing
> thoughout the write select 1 messages.  (I got these write select's
> regularly.)  At the same time, the looping, popping, and general poor
> audio started up.
> 
> I'm guessing that these status messages may be related to the poor audio
> output from the half duplex vat (which must be used on SoundBlasters).
> Note that i got the exact same poor output until I bumped my vat to the
> full duplex version.  I still have the half-duplex, so I'd be glad to do
> some testing.  I'll only have my net until midday tomorrow or so, so get
> back to me soon if you want to deal with this before January.  
> 
> I'm not experienced enough programming to track down this stuff.  I'm
> hoping someone will pick this up (bill?) and work with this.  I'd really
> like to see the half-duplex vat's audio quality improve, as many of us are
> stuck with them and don't want to spend the $xxx on a gus when (IMHO) the
> awe32 has nicer MIDI audio :), and paid $200-300 for the AWE originally.
> 
> Finally:  all is well at gdi.  Now to bludgeon the qcam into shape again
> and play with increasing the fps...
> 

Well , the meters they chew up cpu time so if you don't have a fast
computer I don't recommend that using them. My old system was
a P100 and vat's meters did have much of a problem by way of coming
up with the sound . 


	Have fun,
	Amancio





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