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Date:      Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:10:19 +0200
From:      Kostik Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
To:        Hajimu UMEMOTO <ume@freebsd.org>
Cc:        svn-src-head@freebsd.org, freebsd-rc@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org>, src-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r200743 - in head/usr.sbin: . service
Message-ID:  <20091220121019.GJ2170@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua>
In-Reply-To: <ygeaaxec7oz.wl%ume@mahoroba.org>
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On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 06:31:56PM +0900, Hajimu UMEMOTO wrote:
> Hi,
>=20
> >>>>> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:30:41 -0800
> >>>>> Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org> said:
>=20
> > About the value this change, I think it should be same as the values
> > at boot time.  I cannot imagine that someone want to restart the
> > system daemons under the user environment.=20
>=20
> dougb> I can actually, especially for ports.
>=20
> Yup, I often do restart the services installed from ports, too.
> I meant that I don't want that the values of user environment are
> inherited to the services which is started from the user environment.
>=20
> > Even if someone want to do
> > so, he still can kick /etc/rc.d/foo, directly.
>=20
> dougb> The point of adding a service(8) is to avoid needing to do that. :)
>=20
> Yes, I hope so.:)
> The merit of using service(8) should be that there are more additional
> thing than just kicking /etc/rc.d/foo; don't inherit the values of
> user environment, IMO.

I fully support this. I always have to do the env -u games with several
variables, LANG in particular.

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