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Date:      Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:35:36 +0100
From:      David Malone <dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie>
To:        Luigi Rizzo <luigi@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/talk display.c talk.1 talk.c
Message-ID:  <20020714153536.GA97536@walton.maths.tcd.ie>
In-Reply-To: <20020714082543.B74633@iguana.icir.org>
References:  <200207141408.g6EE8ilL034295@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020714151233.GA36636@hades.hell.gr> <20020714082543.B74633@iguana.icir.org>

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On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 08:25:43AM -0700, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> > Damn.  Now I can't use ps/who to find out who's talking to whom!
> 
> but you can still see that they are using "talk".

You can still figure out who is talking to who with netstat and
fstat I'd guess?

> "ps" and friends are full of privacy violation, as they allow
> unprivileged users to peek at what others are doing by liberally
> showing program arguments (though they can be hidden by setproctitle,
> but almost nobody does that) and program names (which cannot even
> be hidden).
> 
> I think this part should be seriously revised
> (you in Bcc, are you listening ? :)

Isn't this what kern.ps_showallprocs is for? I've always considered
ps and w showing what other people are doing a good way for users
to learn new commands.

	David.

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