Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 22:38:16 +0100 From: =?utf-8?Q?Klaus_K=C3=BCchemann?= <maciphone2@googlemail.com> To: Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org>, freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Showstoppers for RPI3 Message-ID: <5B8EE54E-D376-4CB8-9E34-0CBC7EE36A4B@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <49fce4489ba4aeb7a5638a6c1bbfb5e6a0b84312.camel@freebsd.org> References: <20200225175446.GA77976@www.zefox.net> <11951E01-EC13-4FBB-938A-AEB5700C4281@yahoo.com> <CACNAnaEiv5NZZz%2BxfETkhSZ-zbjZ3Ya6z7pyteheP4zj3EK1Gg@mail.gmail.com> <20200226052045.GA79939@www.zefox.net> <E866B6BE-7948-4412-82EF-999A2F8C0DF9@googlemail.com> <04e8e290e5d7bb810f76ece4ff33d6e1006e63cd.camel@freebsd.org> <9AF20341-AFCC-46BE-A2F2-96CF01655983@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> <49fce4489ba4aeb7a5638a6c1bbfb5e6a0b84312.camel@freebsd.org>
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> Am 26.02.2020 um 22:21 schrieb Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org>: >=20 > It really is pretty specific to the rpi family, for a pair of reasons: >=20 > - The hardware is just crappy, buggy, limited, hard to work with. >=20 > - Documentation needed to write device drivers is not openly > available, and getting an NDA in place with broadcom never seems to > happen despite people over the years saying they would work to make it > happen. >=20 > For inexpensive low-power boards... For the 32-bit world, the > Allwinnner hardware is probably best supported, with imx6 a close > second. For 64-bit I'd say it's the rockpro stuff. >=20 > -- Ian >=20 >=20 Sorry Ian (I'm not talking to you as a human personally, only in = technical terms), You are absolutely right in terms of the Broadcom-closed source=E2=80=A6 But 1 example from today: There was an issue in a (closed source) brcm- firmware=E2=80=A6 Openbsd fixed that in their (Open source-self-programmed-publicly = available) driver in much less than 1 day! You as an absolutely skilled driver-developer really should change your = mind, You seem to have problems with the GPL, with closed source and so on but = if you look at your BSD Clause license It? S also not totally free, so all this doesn=E2=80=99t`matter for = adopting adopt brcm-hardware as far as possible ... Please change your mind because if you go, the next developer thinks: Oh, Ian are finally forget that stuff, so I will also forget=E2=80=A6 And we are hanging here=E2=80=A6 KernelPanic ;-) So, as said please don=E2=80=99t feel attacked personally by my words, = it=E2=80=99s the opposite: I just wish you will continue your excellent work on drivers =E2=80=A6 Regards Klaus
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