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Date:      Thu, 6 Sep 2001 09:51:46 +0300
From:      Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/share/man/man9 style.9
Message-ID:  <20010906095146.C74323@sunbay.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010906090555.H4447@wantadilla.lemis.com>; from grog@FreeBSD.org on Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 09:05:55AM %2B0930
References:  <200109050046.f850kqZ94002@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010905143804.Q96906@sunbay.com> <20010906090555.H4447@wantadilla.lemis.com>

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On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 09:05:55AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote:
> On Wednesday,  5 September 2001 at 14:38:04 +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 05:46:51PM -0700, Greg Lehey wrote:
> >> grog        2001/09/04 17:46:51 PDT
> >>
> >>   Modified files:
> >>     share/man/man9       style.9
> >>   Log:
> >>   Correct (English language) style.  No change in (C language) style.
> >>
> >>   Revision  Changes    Path
> >>   1.64      +15 -15    src/share/man/man9/style.9
> >>
> > And what was wrong with exclamation marks?
> 
> They were out of place, and didn't conform with the style of the rest
> of the document.
> 
> Note that in English, an imperative normally does <em>not</em> require
> a terminating exclamation mark; indeed, it's not allowed.
> 
>  From the Chicago Manual of Style, 14th Edition:
> 
>  5.17 An exclamation point [sic] is used to mark an outcry or an
>       emphatic or ironic comment.  To avoid detracting from its
>       effectiveness, however, the author should use this punctuation
>       sparingly.
> 
>  5.19 The use of an exclamation point as an editorial protest is
>       strongly discouraged.
> 
>  From the Commonwealth of Australia Style Manual, 5th edition:
> 
>  6.83 An exclamation mark should be used to indicate a high degree of
>       surprise, incredulity or strong emotion.
> 
 From the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary:

An exclamation mark os (US) exclamation point is used at the end
of a sentence expressing surprise, joy, anger, shock or some
other strong emotion:

  That's marvellous!
  'Never!' she cried.

In informal written English, more than one exclamation mark, or
an exclamation mark and a question mark, may be used:

  'Your wife's just given birth to triplets.'
  'Triplets!?'

Never of the above apparently falls under those style(9) cases.

>  By contrast, Duden says:
> 
>  R28 Das Ausrufezeichen steht nach Aufforderungs- bzw. Befehlssatzen
>      und nach Wunschsatzen.
> 
Было очень интересно узнать, спасибо!

> If you look at the cases in point, you'll find that both possibilities
> mentioned in Duden apply to these sentences.  Neither English source
> allows an exclamation mark to terminate a sentence in imperative mood.
> 
Hmm, hmm.  Under the `imperative' article of the above mentioned
dictionary, I read:

: 2 (grammar) a form of a verb that expresses a command: In ``Go away!''
: the verb is an imperative/is in the imperative.  Compare INDICATIVE 2,
: INFINITIVE, SUBJUNCTIVE.


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