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Date:      Fri, 5 Feb 2010 16:16:34 -0800 (PST)
From:      Dan <meslists@yahoo.fr>
To:        Marc Fonvieille <blackend@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-doc@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re : handbook - [5.4.2 Configuring X11] - suggesting an improvement
Message-ID:  <377659.99448.qm@web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <20100205183925.GA1275@gothic.blackend.org>
References:  <4B6BF9C0.8070706@yahoo.fr> <20100205183925.GA1275@gothic.blackend.org>

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Hi :-)=0A=0AThank you for the fast feedback. So in your tests hal did not a=
ctually =0Aparse the new/modified fdi file(s) ? Or some hardware, that was =
=0Apreviously working, stopped ?=0A=0AHere, hal needed a restart together w=
ith the X-Window System (maybe one =0Ashould also state this in the doc). I=
 was pretty sure that starting a =0Ascript at boot time or restarting it la=
ter when the system was already =0Arunning would not lead to differences in=
 behaviour (reading config files I mean). =0A=0ABTW, I am not aware of the =
FreeBSD policies in this respect but, you =0Aalready know, one of the criti=
cs made to some well-known software is =0Athat it leads to too many (unnece=
ssary) reboots. I think it would not be bad here to underline that a reboot=
 is needed just in the worst case. =0AAnd what if a new FreeBSD user, who i=
s reading the guide, has to test =0Aseveral fdi files because she/he is not=
 able to write a working one at =0Afirst (how many reboots...) ?  (But It's=
 also true that she/he also =0Awould be unnecessarily worried if hal would =
not read the config files =0Awhen the script restarts -...isnt there any lo=
g??)=0A=0ABut, definitely, all this is just my own opinion. =0A=0Aciao,=0Ad=
aniele=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0ADe : Marc Fonvieille <=
blackend@freebsd.org>=0A=C0 : daniele <meslists@yahoo.fr>=0ACc : freebsd-do=
c@freebsd.org=0AEnvoy=E9 le : Ven 5 F=E9vrier 2010, 19 h 39 min 25 s=0AObje=
t : Re: handbook - [5.4.2 Configuring X11] - suggesting an improvement=0A=
=0AOn Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 11:58:08AM +0100, daniele wrote:=0A> >=0A> > >/=
=0A> > />/  I was reading the section 5.4.2 of the handbook. In the 2nd and=
 3rd Notes,=0A> > />/  after the fdi file code, one reads=0A> > />/=0A> > /=
>/  "You will have to reboot your machine to force *hald* to read this file=
."=0A> > />/=0A> > />/  I think this is not the most efficient solution to =
let hald read again the=0A> > />/  file.=0A> > />/=0A> > />/  Restarting ju=
st the hal start script  wouldn't be enough ?=0A> > /=0A> > Not always:=0A>=
 >=0A> > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=3D595146+0+archive/20=
09/freebsd-doc/20091101.freebsd-doc=0A> >    =0A> Hi,=0A> =0A> Thanks for a=
nswering. That seems a bit "strange". The specifically =0A> reported "probl=
ems" in the end are a mouse not working after the restart =0A> but the auth=
or did not specify the number of machines he made the test =0A> on and if o=
ther problems occur. It would be interesting to know a bit =0A> more about =
this (I mean if it happens frequently and if other problems =0A> occur). I =
changed the keyboard layout 1-2 times but got no problems here =0A> restart=
ing the script.=0A>=0A=0AI think the problem is not the number of machines =
tested but the fact it=0Ajust did not work for some users/hardware.  This i=
s a problem since=0Apeople may think the issue is coming from their fdi scr=
ipt when it's=0Ajust the hald daemon unable to reread a file.  The proposed=
 solution=0Aworks for everyone.=0A=0AMaybe we can rewrite the part with a m=
ention of rc.d HAL restart and=0Athen with a note telling "if it does not w=
ork , you will have to reboot=0Ayour box... blahblah".=0A=0A-- =0AMarc=0A=
=0A=0A=0A      



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