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Date:      Tue, 25 Sep 2001 14:30:26 -0400
From:      Jason Andresen <jandrese@mitre.org>
To:        Richard Johnson <raj@cisco.com>
Cc:        Warner Losh <imp@harmony.village.org>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD/X11 on NEC Daylite?
Message-ID:  <3BB0CD42.34440714@mitre.org>
References:  <3BB08500.7734C340@mitre.org> <15280.12140.840758.895895@rast.cisco.com> <200109251547.f8PFl5761215@harmony.village.org> <15280.49259.374816.666581@rast.cisco.com>

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Richard Johnson wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the responses!
> 
> Warner Losh writes:
>  > Actaully, all 2.5" IDE disks *DO* have the same pinout.  At least all
>  > the ones that have passed through my hot little hands (to be fair,
>  > that's only about 40 total with 15 different models).  I've seen the
>  > biggest problem between laptops is the suspend to disk partition.
>  > Some BIOSes get grumpy when it isn't there, or has garbage in it.
> 
> In this case, the system recognizes the drive and I can even install
> FreeBSD on it with no problems, however when I try to boot from it I
> see:
>         F1 DOS
>         F2 FreeBSD
> and whichever one you select it simply beeps and does nothing.

Hmm, I've run into problems like that before, but I don't know exactly
what causes them.  Usually I install a different boot manager and the
whole thing just works.  

Some boot managers you might want to try (all of them have DOS
floppy installs IIRC):

os-bs (and the os-bs beta) on most FreeBSD install CD-ROMs in the 
tools directory and on the FTP site.

xosl at http://www.xosl.org/ which has a very fancy graphical
bootloader that comes with it's own partition manager.

extipl http://www.tsden.org/takamiti/extipl/ (Japanese) or
       http://www.tsden.org/ryutaroh/extipl/extipl.html (english)
A fairly bare bones boot manager that even comes as a port
in FreeBSD.  I use this one myself, mostly because it's small
and doesn't require reconfiguration everytime you move disks
around. 

There are several other commercial boot managers, but they're
all overkill for what you need on this laptop.  Included in
this list are System Commander and Powerquest's boot manager
(I can't remember it's name right now...probably boot magic 
though).

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