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Date:      Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:27:43 -0700 (PDT)
From:      RexFelis <catlord17@yahoo.com>
To:        freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: new freebsd slogan!!!
Message-ID:  <20030906002743.11415.qmail@web40414.mail.yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <20030905213723.59019.qmail@web10105.mail.yahoo.com>

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In reference to my idea about "set it and forget it', I suppose that would have to be too narrow a reference to be a good slogan.  In my case, I find that a LOT of the work I have to do for my other operating systems just doesn't need to be done for my FreeBSD box - there's a portupgrade here, and a cvsup there.  Make a new world once every month or so... but if I were to set my mother up on FreeBSD, I dare say her system would need attention maybe twice a year at best.
 
So my 'set it and forget it' statement arose from my thinking along the lines of how I would use it, and not as a server.  Sometimes when I am tired I forget to think beyond my own experiences.  :)  That, and I am not much of a server admin.

twig les <twigles@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Michal,

Please notice the *actual words* I wrote.

"I don't patch very often. I'm only rarely affected by patches
since I turn almost everything off..."

Where did I say that FBSD doesn't need patching?

And as for being an MS basher, how can one appreciate one
operating system unless it is in relationship to another? The
point of the initial post is that I am inundated with patches on
one OS and the other one needs some attention every few months. 
That's pretty well on track for advocacy IMO.

--- Michal Pasternak wrote:
> twig les [Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 09:20:25AM -0700]:
> > And that was obviously *5 FRIGGIN PATCHES* for my windoze
> box on
> > Wednesday, I simply didn't wait long enough to post.
> 
> Dear Twig Les,
> 
> please notice the name of this mailing list. It's
> freebsd-advocacy@. It's
> _not_ windows-bashing@ ;)
> 
> Even if we are pro-BSD, we can't tell false things to people.
> Saying, that
> FreeBSD doesn't need patching is not true. It doesn't need
> updates as often,
> as Windows or Linux does - but it still needs them, it still
> has bugs
> inside, like every software we use everyday. Just like the
> "set it and
> forget it" "slogan" RexFelis thought about - it's also not
> true. If you will
> setup some box, with some services on it and forget about
> software updates,
> you might end up defaced.
> 
> "BSD: What you'll probably end up on anyway." sounds good -
> and it is true.
> No matter if you run Slackware, Debian or Redhat - you will
> still end up
> compiling some software packages from sources, just because
> binaries don't
> contain the options you need. BSD has ports/pkgsrc. BSD is
> good as a
> development platform.
> 
> My slogan? "BSD: We know, who wrote the code. Linux - until
> 2.5.x. branch
> (that's about 25 MB of gzipped sources AFAIR) didn't had _any_
> version
> control system... and that could help them with that SCO case.
> Pity.
> 
> ... ;) or "BSD: we don't pollute the internet with the same
> binary package
> for 10 different distributions" ;)
> 
> Regards,
> -- 
> Michal Pasternak :: http://pasternak.w.lub.pl
> Noise to meet you.


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