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Date:      Wed, 07 Jan 2009 09:35:37 +0200
From:      Manolis Kiagias <sonic2000gr@gmail.com>
To:        Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@freebsd.org>, Gabor PALI <pgj@freebsd.org>, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, frank@shute.org.uk
Subject:   Re: [RFC] A Handbook Section on Updating the Documentation Set
Message-ID:  <49645B49.8020301@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20090107065358.GA36732@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk>
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Frank Shute wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 09:24:25PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>   
>> On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:36:31 +0000, Frank Shute <frank@shute.org.uk> wrote:
>>     
>>> On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 07:31:56PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>>>       
>>>> On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:29:48 +0100, Gabor PALI <pgj@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> http://people.freebsd.org/~pgj/patches/2008/12/27/updating-upgrading-documentation.patch.diff
>>>>>           
>>>> Ping...  Any news about this patch?
>>>>         
>>> Hi Giorgos,
>>>
>>> If you remember, you asked me if I could get the page I wrote about
>>> using csup to update the docs:
>>>
>>> http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/freebsd_uptodate.html
>>>
>>> into some sort of state to be incorporated into the updating section
>>> of the handbook.
>>>       
>> Hi Frank,
>>
>> "Yes", and if you can review the existing patch by Gabor Pali :)
>>     
>
> I've had a look at the patch and I like it. I wish it had existed in
> the docs before!
>
> A niggle though: 
>
> Are the docs going to start using s/cvsup/csup/?  ATM, there's only a
> note in "A.6 Using CVSup" about using csup instead of cvsup; but the
> chapter on installing ports uses csup. It's all a bit inconsistent.
>
>   

There is a note in the synopsis of the 'Updating and Upgrading FreeBSD' 
chapter that cvsup may be substituted by csup in the chapter's 
instructions. Currently, cvsup has a "cvs mode" used to replicate entire 
repositories (and not simply performing a checkout as csup does). This 
is mostly used by developers though, and most handbook instructions use 
cvsup exactly like csup.
AFAIK, there is an effort to introduce this functionality in csup too. 
CVSup will then become redundant. Until then it will unfortunately keep 
causing confusion to lots of people.
> I think Gabor's patch should use csup & have a note about using cvsup
> if you've got an OS < 6.2. As far as I can see, only developers who
> want to pull the CVS files need cvsup & those with older releases...
> although they can install the csup port with it's fewer dependencies.
>
> I didn't see any errors in it otherwise & I thought it gave a nice
> easy to follow guide which is what's needed.
>
>   




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