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Date:      Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:51:03 +0200
From:      Pietro Cerutti <gahr@gahr.ch>
To:        Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>,  freebsd-rc@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: conf/105568: [patch] Add more flexibility to rc.conf, to choose "_enable" values at startup
Message-ID:  <470954C7.4060904@gahr.ch>
In-Reply-To: <4706B42B.20207@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <200710012040.l91KeC2t097859@freefall.freebsd.org>	 <alpine.BSF.0.9999.0710011753400.1408@ync.qbhto.arg>	 <47022870.7030607@gahr.ch>	 <alpine.BSF.0.9999.0710021522150.23009@ync.qbhto.arg> <fee88ee40710021541ke648672r23db8e1b9a04fe56@mail.gmail.com> <4703A8B6.80803@gahr.ch> <4706B42B.20207@FreeBSD.org>

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Doug Barton wrote:
> Pietro Cerutti wrote:
>=20
>> I have no problem accepting the fact that you don't need this feature,=

>> but, on the contrary, it seems that you have a problem accepting the
>> fact that someone could find it useful.
>=20
> That is certainly not true for me, and I don't think it's true for Kian=

> either. I can see how _someone_ could find it useful, I just don't thin=
k
> that a majority of our users would benefit from this.
>=20
>> The feature doesn't change any defaults, don't have any side effects a=
nd
>> can merely be ignored if you don't want to use it.
>>
>> Why are you so reluctant in accepting it?
>=20
> The rc.d system is critical to FreeBSD, and making boot time faster is =
a
> goal that always have in front of us. We have to critically examine
> every single suggestion for modifications to it, and the bias is
> strongly in the direction of not adding something that won't be
> beneficial to the majority of our users.

Ok I understand the politics and you point. Thanks!

>=20
> Every extra line of code adds complexity and some amount of processing
> time, no matter how small. It's very easy to go from a streamlined
> system (which IMO rc.d is not yet) to a bloated pig one centimeter at a=

> time.
>=20
> I don't expect you to necessarily agree with my analysis, but I wanted
> to explain more of the reasoning behind it, which hopefully will help
> you understand that we're not just rejecting your proposal out of hand.=

>=20
> Doug
>=20


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Pietro Cerutti

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