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Date:      Fri, 24 Nov 2006 12:11:29 +0000
From:      RW <list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Password Security
Message-ID:  <200611241211.31476.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com>
In-Reply-To: <20061124163754.5a11ddef@localhost>
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On Friday 24 November 2006 05:37, Norberto Meijome wrote:
> Precisely - MS makes a very strong (and valid) point of saying that once
> 'the bad guys' have physical access to your box, the machine is owned.
>
> The was a (very cool) presentation in Ruxcon (ruxcon.org) this year about
> hacking into someone's machine via Firewire. And even if it was an exploit,
> neither the researcher/hacker nor MS would consider it "security issue",
> because to use this FW attack you need physical access... ie, you've lost
> the battle already, it's just a matter of picking your method of breaking
> in.

I think that's  a bit complacent of MS, given that most instances of their OS 
don't run on servers. 

If a desktop machine has encrypted partitions, it is protected against someone 
stealing it and breaking in at their convenience. Reading data from a running 
machine, shouldn't be as convenient and inconspicuous as plugging-in a cable.



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