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Date:      Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:51:55 +0100
From:      =?UTF-8?B?VGltbyBTY2jCmm9lbGVy?= <timo.schoeler@riscworks.net>
To:        "Aryeh M. Friedman" <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com>
Cc:        Dominic Fandrey <kamikaze@bsdforen.de>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD's problems as seen by the BSDForen.de community
Message-ID:  <47873C3B.1070008@riscworks.net>
In-Reply-To: <478735A5.7050307@gmail.com>
References:  <47873174.4040802@gmail.com> <3648.1200043092@critter.freebsd.dk>	<20080111092015.GA17702@freebie.xs4all.nl> <478735A5.7050307@gmail.com>

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thus Aryeh M. Friedman spake:
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> Wilko Bulte wrote:
>> Quoting Poul-Henning Kamp, who wrote on Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at
>> 09:18:12AM +0000 ..
>>> In message <47873174.4040802@gmail.com>, "Aryeh M. Friedman"
>>> writes:
>>>
>>>>> Ny scheme that depends on us changing the license is a
>>>>> non-starter for both practical (we'd need to get everybodys
>>>>> acceptance of that, and piss of a large number of users who
>>>>> have cleared the BSD license with their laywers) and
>>>>> ideological (we don't want to create uncertainty about the
>>>>> well known and deeply established BSD license).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> The revision I am suggesting [...]
>>> It does not matter.  The BSD license will not be changed for the
>>> reasons I stated.
>>>
>>> It ain't gonna happen.
>>>
>>> All you're doing now is hurting your case by annoyingly keeping
>>> barking up the wrong tree.
>> Worse, it is hurting FreeBSD because it burns committer cycles that
>> better be spent on doing something sensible instead of arguing
>> about a license change that will never happen.
>>
> 
> If one never tries to change something then it will never get changed
> and dismissing something as impossible from the get go is the hight of
> close mindiness (which everyone is accusing me of when the fact is I
> was not the one that started using dishonest debating methods)

One might try to change something if it's broken. The license is not.



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