Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 12:32:32 -0800 From: Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.freebsd.org> To: "Paul Traina" <pst@pst.org> Cc: "Mikhail Teterin" <mi@aldan.algebra.com>, jhb@FreeBSD.org, winter@jurai.net, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, obrien@FreeBSD.org, des@ofug.org, imp@village.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/sysinstall install.c installUpgrade Message-ID: <28993.1017865952@winston.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: Message from "Paul Traina" <pst@pst.org> of "Wed, 03 Apr 2002 10:20:02 PST." <012001c1db3c$2cbc1950$2b6b6fc0@shockwave.org>
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Actually, Debian packages are fearfully *slow* given that there's no database underlying them, just flat text files which become very laborious to scan and index as the collection of installed packages grows. If you're honestly looking for the most superior packaging technology out there, and the field hasn't got many candidates so be very clear on the fact that "superior" is very relative to that fact, then you need look no further than RPMs. It pains me to say that given the sheer ickyness of the spec file format and the package storage format, but in terms of feature set and speed, you can't touch RPMs. - Jordan > debian .deb packages, *please*. Having used both Free and Deb, I have to > say that Deb cleans our clock hands down. What you want to wrap it in is > almost irrelevant. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jordan Hubbard" <jkh@winston.freebsd.org> > To: "Mikhail Teterin" <mi@aldan.algebra.com> > Cc: <jhb@FreeBSD.org>; <winter@jurai.net>; <cvs-all@FreeBSD.org>; > <cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org>; <obrien@FreeBSD.org>; <pst@pst.org>; > <des@ofug.org>; <imp@village.org> > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:12 AM > Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/sysinstall install.c installUpgrade > > > > > But .zip is noticeably bigger than .tar.gz. Not to mention, .tar.bz2. > > > And the package size is what's of the highest priority, IMHO, since > > > disks and especially bandwidth don't grow nearly as fast as the CPU > > > speeds. > > > > You must live outside the US, that's all I can say. That assertion > > is completely false here. > > > > I would also argue that package size is of the highest priority - > > that's patently untrue. What's the highest priority in packaging > > formats is providing enough power and mechanism to make the package > > installation experience a lot more robust and user-friendly. Disks > > are getting so cheap and so large (in even the most humble user > > configurations) that I'd probably put package size _last_. > > > > I also live in the middle of the woods with redwood trees and all > > sorts of wildlife around and even I have 1.5MBit worth of downstream > > bandwidth via my ADSL line. Just imagine how well-connected all those > > city people must be! :-) > > > > - Jordan > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message
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