Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 12:02:11 +0000 From: Clem.Dye@wdr.com To: Clem.Dye@wdr.com, marko@uk.radan.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org, rmarler@tomatoweb.com Subject: RE: Re: Multi-Boot Message-ID: <H0000082017b1a7b@MHS>
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I appreciate the point about the first partition being NTFS only - in my case, I'd keep it FAT, to give me access to MS-DOS. I'm not familiar with BootEasy - is this a FreeBSD component? As for using the FreeBSD boot loader to boot NT & FreeBSD, a separate message to the list from peter@SchmidtP.rbh.nthames.nhs.uk implies that this is possible. In all honesty, I don't really care which bootloader I use, but I do think that the NT loader is 'nicer' - ugh! Clem -----Original Message----- From: marko Sent: 18 March 1999 11:38 To: Dye, Clem Cc: marko; questions; rmarler Subject: Re: Multi-Boot Clem.Dye@wdr.com wrote: > > After I posted the message it dawned on me that of course the boot > sector won't contain a drive reference - doh! The implications > therefore (as I understand it) must be that if the NT bootloader is > to be used, it must reside in a small [DOS] bootable partition on the > first drive. Doesn't have to be a DOS partition, it can be NTFS. We have PC's here with a 100MB NTFS drive C and a multi-GB drive D (don't ask me why they've been done like that when they could just be a single NTFS drive, maybe C: was FAT and someone converted them to NTFS). All that is needed is BOOT.INI, NTLDR, NTDETECT.COM in the first primary partition on the first HD. > FreeBSD would then have to be installed on the remainder > of the first drive, whilst NT goes on the second drive. A bit of a > chore, but not impossible. As I plan to install FreeBSD on a test box > first, I can try-out both scenarios and report back. I'm hoping to > get around to this within the next couple of weeks. > Hmm, sounds like we'll be doing it at the same time. Who's going to post a HELP! message to the list first ;-) > Now, how about the scenario where FreeBSD is installed on the second > drive and DOS/NT on the first drive but the FreeBSD bootloader is > installed. Can the FreeBSD bootloader be used to boot DOS/NT and > FreeBSD, or do the same rules apply as to where FreeBSD must live - > ie: somewhere on the first drive? > I believe that if you install Booteasy and select DOS/Windows it will boot drive C: and you will then get your existing NT menu....I *think*, you will need to ask someone who's actually done it. > Clem > > -----Original Message----- > From: marko > Sent: 18 March 1999 11:03 > To: Dye, Clem > Cc: marko; rmarler; questions > Subject: Re: Multi-Boot > > Clem.Dye@wdr.com wrote: > > > > Hmmm. I was planning a similar DOS/NT4.0/NT5.0/FreeBSD 3.1 > > installation on my test box, with the idea that FreeBSD be installed > > on the second drive in its entirety but still using the NT > > bootloader. (An aside: a nice way to see if FAQ is valid for NT5.0, > > but I digress.) > > > > I re-read the FAQ and the example shows how to use the NT bootloader > > where FreeBSD is on the same drive. What it doesn't say (as far as I > > can tell) is that FreeBSD has to be on the same drive as NT. At > > least, that's my understanding. That leaves two questions, in my > mind: > > > > 1) Is it possible to use the NT bootloader to multi-os boot where > > FreeBSD isn't on the first drive? > > > > I'm at work so I haven't got the FAQ to hand, but IIRC it does say > something about which drive FreeBSD has to be on (I think the word > "same" is shown in bold). Bear in mind that whilst NT can be in any > partition on any drive it *must* boot from the first primary partition > on the first drive. I also remember someone else saying in a previous > thread on this subject that FreeBSD had to be on the first disk. To > add FreeBSD to the NT boot menu you dd(1) the first sector of the > FreeBSD partition to a file on C:\ and if I understand it correctly > this sector only contains partition info, it doesn't reference which > disk it's on (otherwise you wouldn't be able to move drives around) so > NT's boot loader will look for the partition on the first disk. > > > 2) If the answer to (1) is 'no', is it possible to use the FreeBSD > > bootloader to boot DOS/NT etc. in addition to FreeBSD if the FreeBSD > > install is allowed to update the boot record on the first drive? > > > > I believe it is possible to use Booteasy. I've never used it myself > though. > > I'd be very interested if it is possible to make NT's boot loader owrk > with FreeBSD on another disk as I will be getting a second HD in a > couple of weeks and would like to use it exclusively for FreeBSD. > Currently I'm planning on having ``/'', ``/var'' and swap on the first > HD and ``/usr'' on the second. > > > Clem > > > > -- > FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org > My Webpage http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~markov > _______________________________________________________________ > Mark Ovens, CNC Apps Engineer, Radan Computational Ltd. Bath UK > CAD/CAM solutions for Sheetmetal Working Industry > mailto:marko@uk.radan.com http://www.radan.com -- FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~markov _______________________________________________________________ Mark Ovens, CNC Apps Engineer, Radan Computational Ltd. 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