Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 05:50:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: RE: advocacy/31194: freebsd.org mailing lists - configuration problem? Message-ID: <200110101250.f9ACo2W48052@freefall.freebsd.org>
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The following reply was made to PR advocacy/31194; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> To: "Szilveszter Adam" <sziszi@bsd.hu>, <freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG> Cc: Subject: RE: advocacy/31194: freebsd.org mailing lists - configuration problem? Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 05:45:55 -0700 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Szilveszter Adam >Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 5:05 AM >To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: advocacy/31194: freebsd.org mailing lists - configuration >problem? > > >My ISP's SMTP server, through which I relay, does not use its FQDN >when issuing a HELO, rather it only uses its hostname. Eg it says > >HELO foo > >instead of > >HELO foo.bar.com > First: close this PR. This is not broken behavior. Your ISP's mailserver is broken. No properly configured mailserver on the Internet issues an unqualified name with HELO. Your ISP's mailserver must be listed in the global DNS with a fully-qualified DNS name in order for it to receive incoming mail (ie: foo.bar.com or whatever) in the first place. Thus, it's in effect parading around with a fully-qualified DNS name from the rest of the world's perspective. For it to not issue that fully qualified DNS name in it's own HELO's is not only an error, it's rude as well. Please see the explanation atached to PR misc/26744 - this topic has been beat to death and everyone is tired of it. Nobody likes spammers and the only way we know how to fight them is to ENFORCE absolutely proper SMTP mail exchanges so the spammers may run but they can't hide. Your choice is to either beat your ISP over the head until they start doing it right, or obtain a static IP number with a valid reverse address record on it from them and set up your own mailserver and have at it. All major ISP's such as AOL, Earthlink, MSN, etc. have no problem complying with the Questions mailing list restrictions. If an ISP with millions of users processing thousands of pieces of mail an hour has no problem complying, then your ISP can do it too. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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