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Date:      Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:40:05 GMT
From:      Murray Stokely <murray@freebsdmall.com>
To:        freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: docs/78138: Error in pre-installation section of installation chapter
Message-ID:  <200503181540.j2IFe5we070602@freefall.freebsd.org>

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The following reply was made to PR docs/78138; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Murray Stokely <murray@freebsdmall.com>
To: "Devon H. O'Dell" <dodell@offmyserver.com>
Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: docs/78138: Error in pre-installation section of installation chapter
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:56:11 -0800

 Hi Devon, this is good information but I'd like to describe a more
 FreeBSD friendly way of doing this.  Can we provide ntfsresize on a
 FreeBSD live CD?
 
 	- Murray
 
 On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 10:34:04AM +0100, Devon H. O'Dell wrote:
 > 
 > >Number:         78138
 > >Category:       docs
 > >Synopsis:       Error in pre-installation section of installation chapter
 > >Confidential:   no
 > >Severity:       non-critical
 > >Priority:       low
 > >Responsible:    freebsd-doc
 > >State:          open
 > >Quarter:        
 > >Keywords:       
 > >Date-Required:
 > >Class:          doc-bug
 > >Submitter-Id:   current-users
 > >Arrival-Date:   Sun Feb 27 09:40:00 GMT 2005
 > >Closed-Date:
 > >Last-Modified:
 > >Originator:     Devon H. O'Dell
 > >Release:        N/A
 > >Organization:
 > Offmyserver
 > >Environment:
 > N/A
 > 
 > >Description:
 > 	The handbook erroneously states that Partition Magic is the only
 > 	known tool that can resize NTFS partitions. Since the time of that
 > 	writing, several free and commercial tools have been developed that
 > 	also support resizing NTFS partitions.
 > 
 > 	This PR may be a duplicate of docs/71980, but I believe this patch
 > 	better addresses the issue at hand.
 > 
 > >How-To-Repeat:
 > 	N/A
 > >Fix:
 > 	The following patch should fix this problem. I was unsure how to
 >         format ``Linux'' in the ``Linux LiveCD'' text where I mention
 > 	Knoppix, so that may need to be changed. I'm also not sure if the
 > 	links are proper. This patch should be carefully scrutinized :).
 > 
 > 	This patch also mentions the commercial BootIT NG utility that
 > 	was reported by Paul Colin Gloster <Colin_Paul_Gloster@ACM.org>.
 > 
 > --- share/sgml/trademarks.ent.old	Sat Feb 19 15:51:27 2005
 > +++ share/sgml/trademarks.ent	Sun Feb 27 09:20:27 2005
 > @@ -8,7 +8,7 @@
 >  
 >       Please keep this file sorted.
 >  
 > -     $FreeBSD: doc/share/sgml/trademarks.ent,v 1.26 2005/02/19 15:51:27 simon Exp $
 > +     $FreeBSD: /repoman/r/dcvs/doc/share/sgml/trademarks.ent,v 1.26 2005/02/19 15:51:27 simon Exp $
 >  -->
 >  
 >  <!ENTITY tm-attrib.3com "<para>3Com and HomeConnect are registered
 > @@ -71,6 +71,11 @@
 >  <!ENTITY tm-attrib.broadcom "<para>Broadcom is a registered trademark
 >    of Broadcom Corporation and/or its subsidiaries.</para>">
 >  <!ENTITY broadcom "<trademark class='registered'>Broadcom</trademark>">
 > +
 > +<!-- http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/downloads/bootitng.pdf -->
 > +<!ENTITY tm-attrib.bootit "<para>BootIt, BootNow, and BurnCDCC are
 > +  trademarks of TeraByte Unlimited</para>">
 > +<!ENTITY bootit "<trademark>BootIt</trademark>">
 >  
 >  <!-- http://www.checkpoint.com/copyright.html -->
 >  <!ENTITY tm-attrib.check-point "<para>Check Point, Firewall-1, and
 > --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install/chapter.sgml.old	Sun Feb 13 10:24:08 2005
 > +++ en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install/chapter.sgml	Sun Feb 27 09:20:07 2005
 > @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 >  <!--
 >       The FreeBSD Documentation Project
 >  
 > -     $FreeBSD: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install/chapter.sgml,v 1.319 2005/02/13 10:24:08 simon Exp $
 > +     $FreeBSD: /repoman/r/dcvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install/chapter.sgml,v 1.319 2005/02/13 10:24:08 simon Exp $
 >  -->
 >  
 >  <chapter id="install">
 > @@ -269,20 +269,42 @@
 >  	want a graphical user interface.  If you intend to install a lot of
 >  	third party software as well, then you will need more space.</para>
 >  
 > -      <para>You can use a commercial tool such as <application>&partitionmagic;</application>
 > -	to resize your partitions to make space for
 > -	FreeBSD.  The <filename>tools</filename> directory on the CDROM
 > -	contains two free software tools which can carry out this task, namely
 > -	<application>FIPS</application> and
 > -	<application>PResizer</application>.  Documentation for both
 > -	of these is available in the same directory.
 > -	<application>FIPS</application>,
 > -	<application>PResizer</application>, and
 > -	<application>&partitionmagic;</application> can resize
 > -	<acronym>FAT16</acronym> and <acronym>FAT32</acronym>
 > -	partitions &mdash; used in &ms-dos; through &windows; ME.
 > -	<application>&partitionmagic;</application> is the only known
 > -	application that can resize <acronym>NTFS</acronym>.</para>
 > +      <para>Several free and commercial tools are available for resizing and
 > +        managing partitions. The <filename>tools</filename> directory on the
 > +        CDROM contains two free software tools which can carry out this task:
 > +        <application>FIPS</application> and <application>PResizer</application>.
 > +        These tools can resize FAT16 and FAT32 partitions, the filesystems
 > +        used in &ms-dos; through &windows; ME. Documentation for using both of
 > +        these tools exists in the same directory as the tools themselves.</para>
 > +
 > +      <para>Like <application>FIPS</application> and
 > +        <application>PResizer<application>, commercial tools such as
 > +        <application>&partitionmagic;</application> and
 > +        <application>&bootit; Next Generation</application> are available
 > +        for the same task. These and other similar commercial tools generally
 > +        support resizing a greater range of partition types than the
 > +        aforementioned free tools. Both
 > +        <application>&partitionmagic;</application> and
 > +        <application>&bootit; Next Generation</application> support resizing
 > +        NTFS partitions. NTFS is the filesystem used in &windows; NT
 > +        platforms, including the &windows; 2000, XP and 2003 operating
 > +        systems.</para>
 > +
 > +      <para>Recently, several free alternatives to these commercial tools have
 > +        been developed. Tools such as <application>ntfsresize</application>
 > +        exist and are well capable of resizing NTFS partitions.
 > +        <application>QTParted</application>, a
 > +        <application>&partitionmagic;</application> clone, provides a friendly
 > +        user interface useful for resizing many different partition types.
 > +        <application>QTParted</application> supports resizing NTFS partitions
 > +        through the <application>ntfsresize</application> utility.
 > +        <application>QTParted</application> and 
 > +        <application>ntfsresize</application> are available to download at
 > +        <ulink url="http://qtparted.sourceforge.net"></ulink>; and
 > +        <ulink
 > +          url="http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html"></ulink>,
 > +        respectively. The <ulink url="http://www.knoppix.org">Knoppix</ulink>;
 > +        Linux LiveCD is a bootable CD that includes QTParted.</para>
 >  
 >        <warning>
 >  	<para>Incorrect use of these tools can delete the data on your disk.
 > >Release-Note:
 > >Audit-Trail:
 > >Unformatted:
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