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Date:      Tue, 18 Jun 2019 14:44:53 +0200
From:      =?UTF-8?B?VMSzbA==?= Coosemans <tijl@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Mathieu Arnold <mat@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        bapt@FreeBSD.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org,  svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r503385 - head/Mk/Scripts
Message-ID:  <20190618144446.29662c8f@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org>
In-Reply-To: <20190618110414.ngqcgv4gydfkmk6z@ogg.in.absolight.net>
References:  <201906031257.x53Cvi9P092541@repo.freebsd.org> <20190615170158.489616a4@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> <20190618110414.ngqcgv4gydfkmk6z@ogg.in.absolight.net>

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On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 13:04:14 +0200 Mathieu Arnold <mat@FreeBSD.org>
wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 05:01:58PM +0200, T=C4=B3l Coosemans wrote:
>> On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 12:57:44 +0000 (UTC) Mathieu Arnold <mat@FreeBSD.org>
>> wrote:
>>> Author: mat
>>> Date: Mon Jun  3 12:57:44 2019
>>> New Revision: 503385
>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/503385
>>>=20
>>> Log:
>>>   Use UCL for pkg-message
>>>  =20
>>>   Remain backward compatible but use ucl for the pkg-messages, which al=
lows to:
>>>   - append messages one after the other
>>>   - only print message on delete, install, upgrade from a version to an=
other
>>>  =20
>>>   If pkg-message starts with a [ we consider it should be a valid ucl f=
ile
>>>  =20
>>>   The format is the following:
>>>   [
>>>   { message: "Always print" },
>>>   { message: "package being removed", type: remove },
>>>   { message: "package being installed", type: install },
>>>   { message: "package is being upgraded", type: upgrade },
>>>   { message: "Upgrading from lower than 1.0", maximum_version: "1.0", t=
ype: upgrade },
>>>   { message: "Upgrading from higher than 1.0", minimum_version: "1.0", =
type: upgrade  },
>>>   { message: "Upgrading from >1.0 < 3.0", maximum_version: "3.0", minim=
um_version: "1.0",
>>>   ]
>>>  =20
>>>   Because it is ucl one can use some sugar like:
>>>   [
>>>   { message =3D <<EOD
>>>   formatted
>>>   message 'with fancy things'
>>>   EOD
>>>   },
>>>   } =20
>>=20
>> Can this be extended to include these fields:
>> opsys: <operating system this message applies to>
>> osversion: <list of os version ranges this message applies to>
>> arch: <list of architectures this message applies to>
>> options: <list of options that need to be on or off> =20
>=20
> I am not sure adding more fields is a good idea.
> It should remain simple, otherwise there is a risk of the pkg-message
> syntax getting bloated, and it is bound to be misused, especially as the
> use case would be very rare.
> It would probably be better to add files to _PKGMESSAGES when the case
> you want to handle presents itself.

I agree with that actually, but I guess it depends on whether you see
pkg-message as the final version that goes into the package or whether
it's part of the ports tree and still needs to be processed before a
package is created.

What I'd like to see is that messages that apply to a certain
range of FreeBSD versions are clearly documented as such.  The Firefox
message contains something for FreeBSD < 11.3 but the problem has been
fixed already in stable/11.  It would also make it easier to remove the
messages when the FreeBSD versions go EoL.  Similarly for the options,
the firefox message contains something about a Gvfs/GIO option but there
is no such option.  It doesn't really matter to me whether this is done
in the Makefile or in pkg-message.  I'm all for putting everything
(except files/ maybe) in the Makefile (all those tiny files in the ports
tree significantly slow down subversion and other file system operations
like grep).



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