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Date:      Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:12:21 -0500
From:      "Crist J. Clark" <cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com>
To:        Adrian Urquhart <adrian@devnet-uk.net>
Cc:        FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: OT - getting mail from the future
Message-ID:  <20000316111221.B62772@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com>
In-Reply-To: <20000316143640.43703.qmail@qmail.devnet-uk.net>; from adrian@devnet-uk.net on Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 02:36:40PM %2B0000
References:  <20000316143640.43703.qmail@qmail.devnet-uk.net>

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On Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 02:36:40PM +0000, Adrian Urquhart wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I know this isn't a FreeBSD issue, but it's through the list that I see the
> problem and I'm sure there's someone who knows the answer. Basically, I'm
> receiving some mail through the list (for example, from Danny
> <danny@idx.com.au>) which has apparently arrived tomorrow...
>
> The mail server is a 3.4-R box with sendmail 8.9.3, with the UW-IMAP
> server, and the client is Netscape Messenger 4.7 on NT 4 WS in IMAP mode.
> In my Inbox, I have a mail through the list) from Danny where the date is
> shown as 3/17/00 4.50AM, which for me is tomorrow. Here are the headers
> from the mail:

You mean 16 Mar 2000 04:52:41 GMT, not the 17th, right?

The linewrapping here makes this unreadable. I'll have to piece it
together...

> Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [204.216.27.18]) by mail.devnet-uk.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA70775 for <adrian@devnet-uk.net>; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 04:52:41 GMT (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG)
> Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 538) id 00E6437BB4C; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 20:52:30 -0800 (PST)
> Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E9D422E8156; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 20:52:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions)
> Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 15 Mar 2000 20:52:30 -0800
> Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Received: from mail.alpha.net.au (mail2.alpha.net.au [203.41.44.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB4F37B886 for <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 20:52:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dannyh@idx.com.au)
> Received: from freebsd.freebsd.org (surry-pool-175.alpha.net.au [203.41.44.175] (may be forged)) by mail.alpha.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA07764; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:52:54 +1100
> From: Danny <dannyh@idx.com.au>
> To: Justin Boss <jlboss@yahoo.com>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: KDE Admin for FreeBSD
> 
> Is it because it has crossed three time zones that it has gained an extra
> day? Is there anything I can do to correct it - this message (and others
> from Danny sent today) will appear at the head of the Inbox list until
> 4:50AM tomorrow morning.

Does it really say the 17th somewhere? 'Cause it doesn't in this
header you quoted.

> Any help/hints appreciated.

I always sort my mailboxes by time received (the timestamp when my
machine got it) rather than the time sent (the Date: entry). Using
'Date:' not only leads to timezone troubles, but you are trusting
everyone to have their clock set correctly... then you start getting
new mail at the bottom of the mailbox because some guy has a broken
clock and is sending out a lot of mail from Dec 31, 1969, or someone
is running intentionally with a clock a few years behind so some
license does not think it has expired. I actually was kind of looking
forward to a lot of people running clocks in 1999 or 1996 (last leap
year) to avoid Y2k problems, but that never came to pass.
-- 
Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@home.com


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