Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 01:14:11 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" <cjclark@reflexnet.net> To: John Galt <galt@inconnu.isu.edu> Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [marca@chem2.harvard.edu: mini-AIR Dec 2000 - Blow Your Coat, Truth, Beauty, Gas] Message-ID: <20001207011411.B70269@149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012061555450.22873-100000@inconnu.isu.edu>; from galt@inconnu.isu.edu on Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 03:59:06PM -0700 References: <20001206004915.J99903@149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012061555450.22873-100000@inconnu.isu.edu>
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On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 03:59:06PM -0700, John Galt wrote: > > I thought JIR (When did they change?) was based in your neck of the > woods--Cambridge... You missed all of that fun, huh? The JIR is still the JIR... kind of. Here is a webpage about the very improbable legal battle after the whole JIR staff, excluding the guy who owned the JIR name, basically got up and started AIR, http://www.improbable.com/airchives/lawsuit/lawsuit-top.html From that page, [SOME BACKGROUND for those who are interested: The Journal of Irreproducible Results was founded in 1955 by Alex Kohn and Harry Lipkin. In 1964, George got involved, becoming the Journal's publisher, a relationship that apparently was inharmonious from the start (please do not ask Marc for details, as he knows them only second hand from Alex and Harry). Many years later, Alex and Marc co-founded the Annals of Improbable Research, with Harry as a founding editorial board member. The entire editorial staff (1955-94) of the Journal moved to the Annals, as did most of the editorial board.] But yeah, they are still based in Cambridge, but that Marc Abrahams gets around. I last saw their presentation when at Princeton while I was living in NJ. But I live out here in Silicon Valley too now. > On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Crist J . Clark wrote: > > > The AIR show is going to be at USC Berkeley. I thought that since a > > lot of the people on this list are in that area and some may have > > interest in this type of silliness that I would take the first line of > > their text to heart. > > > > ----- Forwarded message from Marc Abrahams <marca@chem2.harvard.edu> ----- > > > > Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 13:58:09 -0500 (EST) > > Errors-To: marca@chem2.harvard.edu > > Reply-To: mini-air@chem.harvard.edu > > Originator: mini-air@air.harvard.edu > > Precedence: bulk > > From: Marc Abrahams <marca@chem2.harvard.edu> > > To: Multiple recipients of list MINI-AIR <mini-air@chem.harvard.edu> > > Subject: mini-AIR Dec 2000 - Blow Your Coat, Truth, Beauty, Gas > > X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas > > X-UIDL: e82bcf4edb19a79b086e2f05072f69f3 > > > > > > PLEASE FORWARD/POST AS APPROPRIATE > > ================================================================ > > mini-Annals of Improbable Research ("mini-AIR") > > Issue Number 2000-12 > > December, 2000 > > ISSN 1076-500X > > Key words: improbable research, science humor, Ig Nobel, AIR, the > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > A free newsletter of tidbits too tiny to fit in the > > Annals of Improbable Research (AIR), > > the journal of inflated research and personalities > > ================================================================ > > > > ----------------------------- > > 2000-12-01 TABLE OF CONTENTS > > > > 2000-12-01 Table of Contents > > 2000-12-02 mini Housekeeping > > 2000-12-03 What's New in the Magazine > > 2000-12-04 Good Coffee Survey > > 2000-12-05 International Gas Experiment > > 2000-12-06 Project Blow-Your-Coat > > 2000-12-07 Coat-Blowing in the USA > > 2000-12-08 Sentence of Death: Scolasticism > > 2000-12-09 The Truth About Beauty > > 2000-12-10 The Young Turk: a Detective Story > > 2000-12-11 The Y2K Nostalgia Club > > 2000-12-12 Cavalcade of HotAIR: Bare Skin, $$, Peruvian Truckers > > 2000-12-13 Project AIRhead 2000: Beast, Fan, Ball > > 2000-12-14 Postal Frights > > 2000-12-15 MAY WE RECOMMEND: Holiday Research > > 2000-12-16 AIRhead Events > > 2000-12-17 How to Subscribe to AIR (*) > > 2000-12-18 Our Address (*) > > 2000-12-19 Please Forward/Post This Issue! (*) > > 2000-12-20 How to Receive mini-AIR, etc. (*) > > > > Items marked (*) are reprinted in every issue. > > > > mini-AIR is > > a free monthly *e-supplement* to AIR, the print magazine > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > 2000-12-02 mini Housekeeping > > > > 1. AIR show at UC BERKELEY on SUNDAY, DEC. 10 (See section 2000- > > 12-16 below.) Spread the word. > > > > 2. IG ON RADIO -- The annual National Public Radio broadcast of > > the (recorded, edited) Ig Nobel Ceremony was postponed due to the > > NPR radio coverage of US election news. It is tentatively > > scheduled for the final Friday in December. Info will be posted at > > <http://www.sciencefriday.com>; and at <http://www.improbable.com>; > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > 2000-12-03 What's New in the Magazine > > > > AIR 6:6 (Nov/Dec 2000) is the special ECCENTRICS issue. > > > > Special versions of many of the articles will be cropping up on > > the AIR web site during the next few weeks. > > > > A sampling of the article titles: > > > > <> "Edward D. Cope, Heads Above the Rest, the First > > Electronic Publisher in Science," by Earle E. Spamer > > > > <> "The Gentle Art of Political Taxidermy: Charles Waterton, > > Squire of Walton Hall," by Sally Shelton > > > > <> "Chonosuke Okamura, Visionary," by Earle E. Spamer > > > > <> "A Fundamentally Eccentric Premise," by L.X. Finegold > > > > <> "Eccentric Research Recommendations," by Stephen Drew > > > > <> "Frank "Bring 'Em Back Alive and Ready to Eat" Buckland," > > by Sally Shelton > > > > <> "Decoding the British ack-SEN-triks Movement: A > > Phonemological Analysis," by Harold P. Dowd > > > > <> "ASK SYMMETRA: Unbearably Stacked," > > by Scientist/supermodel Symmetra > > > > See the cover and full table of contents, and several of the > > articles posted any day now at > > <http://www.improbable.com/airchives/paperair/volume6.html>; > > > > (What you are reading at this moment is mini-AIR, > > a monthly e-mail small supplement to the print magazine.) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > 2000-12-04 Good Coffee Survey > > > > It is time, once again, to choose and settle a burning or boiling > > scientific controversy. This month's choice is of the boiling, > > rather than burning, variety. Scientific correctness survey #402 > > asks: > > > > Scientifically speaking, what makes a good cup of coffee? > > > > If you have a rich, full-bodied, perfectly brewed answer, please > > send it (in CONCISE form!) to COFFEE SURVEY, c/o > > <marca@chem2.harvard.edu> > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > 2000-12-05 International Gas Experiment > > > > Investigator Philip Miller Tate of Kingston University in the UK, > > has proposed a novel experiment in international inflammation. In > > his words: > > > > As a chemistry lecturer with an interest in the environment, > > I propose the following public survey: > > I am curiously interested in the accuracy of the assertion > > made by French President Chirac recently, that "Each > > American produces three times as much greenhouse gases > > as a Frenchman". Is he correct, or has he just been eating > > too much French beef? > > > > Please participate in our survey by answering the following two > > questions: > > > > 1. Is President Chirac correct about the gassiness of the average > > American? (YES/NO) > > > > 2. Will Dr. Philip Miller Tate succeed in creating an > > international gas-fired conflagration? (YES/NO) > > > > Please send your answers to GASSY INCIDENT SURVEY, c/o > > <marca@chem2.harvard.edu> > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > 2000-12-06 Project Blow-Your-Coat > > > > Please join us in carrying out Project Blow-Your-Coat. The goal is > > to introduce into wide circulation the evocative scientifical > > phrase "blow your coat." > > > > The phrase described a phenomenon observed in chinchillas. When > > startled, they sometimes shed their fur. Veterinarians call this > > "blowing the coat." The phrase can be applied, at least in a > > metaphorical way, to humans -- thus the inception of Project Blow- > > Your-Coat. > > > > RECOMMENDED USAGE: as a folksy, yet precise way of urging someone > > to relax rather than to act startled, or to suggest that someone > > has overreacted. > > > > EXAMPLE #1: "Don't blow your coat, man." > > > > EXAMPLE #2: "When Professor Sigerson saw the bill, she totally > > blew her coat." > > > > INCENTIVE BONUS: After you succeed in getting even one person to > > habitually use the phrase "blow your coat," you will be authorized > > by the Blow-Your-Coat Foundation to affix the Blow family coat of > > arms to the arm of your coat. You can see the Blow coat of arms at > > <http://members.aol.com/BloStnd/Arms.html>; > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > 2000-12-07 Coat-Blowing in the USA > > > > Seven (7, a number that has been confirmed by machine re-count) > > mini-AIR readers blew their coats after reading last month's > > salute to mathematics teacher K. Harris. Three of these readers > > demanded that we "do something." > > > > Here is the something -- an omni-partisan, internationally > > inflammatory statement. Like last month's salute, this statement > > may be useful to mathematics and statistics teachers. Though > > superficially about the recent Florida singularity, it can be > > applied to the sordidly amusing clash of any political parties in > > any close election anywhere: > > > > * * * > > INFLAMMATORY 3-PART PARTISAN STATEMENT: > > > > 1) When it was clear that the Florida vote was a virtual tie -- > > and before ANYONE knew which way the initial count would go -- we > > predicted that WHOEVER came out ahead in the initial count would > > try everything under the sun to prevent a careful recount, and > > that both sides would twist the mathematics beyond recognition. > > > > 2) The prediction was entirely accurate. Slap a minus sign on the > > initial difference and you would have seen exactly the same > > exaggerated -- and in many cases delightfully loopy -- "arguments" > > coming out of exactly the opposite sets of mouths. > > > > 3) Upset by the result of any election that was too close to > > measure with certainty? Don't blow your coat. Sit back and drink > > in the show of clever people on both sides doing their darndest to > > mangle the mathematics. It is a cogno-intellectual spectacle worth > > savoring. > > * * * > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > 2000-12-08 Sentence of Death: Scolasticism > > > > Our SENTENCE OF DEATH Contest is alive and well, and back after a > > long absence. This month's entry was shipped here by investigator > > Alistair McCulloch: > > > > The scolasticism (sic) of the great corpus of > > European philosophy must be de-escalated in favour of > > transparency of ideas that allow for the participation > > of the average intellect in the substance of the discourse > > as an adjunct to action in the everyday world. > > -- Adrian Atkinson, Principles of Political Ecology, > > 1991, Belhaven Press, London, p.44. > > > > Investigator McCullogh gamely offers this attempt at > > interpretation: > > I think what the author is calling for is for writers to > > keep what they are saying simple so that the average person > > in the street can understand....but I'm not really sure... > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > 2000-12-09 The Truth About Beauty > > > > Here are ugly results of Scientific Survey #406. It concerned the > > conjecture by the poet John Keats that: > > > > "Beauty is truth, truth beauty ..." > > > > The survey asked: Do you (a) agree or (b) disagree? > > At also asked: If you disagree, then what is beauty if not truth? > > Or what is truth if not beauty? > > > > Here are the results: > > > > 32% AGREE > > 58% DISAGREE > > 07% BOTH > > 03% NO > > > > The responses were, in truth, not very beautiful. We present only > > one of them. It demonstrates, if nothing else, that truth can be > > stunning: > > > > "My sister-in-law is a beautiful woman, but she is so false that > > I do not believe Keats was right." > > --Pietro Cavalli > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > 2000-12-10 The Young Turk: a Detective Story > > > > Investigators H. Zaman and Bruce Goatly each sent us the same > > citation: > > > > "Structural and Functional Aspects of Papain-Like Cysteine > > Proteinases And Their Protein Inhibitors," B. Turk, V. Turk, and > > D. Turk, Biological Chemistry, vol. 378, nos. 3-4, March-April > > 1997, pp. 141-50. > > > > Zamand and Goatly both raise the same question: Which is the young > > Turk? The authors are at the J. Stefan Institute, Ljubljana, > > Slovenia. > > > > If you happen to KNOW which is the young Turk, or if you have done > > the requisite detective work and thusly KNOW which it is, please > > let us know. > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > 2000-12-11 The Y2K Nostalgia Club > > > > We've been receiving letters from people who miss the excitement > > of the Y2K watch. Many sufferers ask that we form a support group. > > We might be willing to do that, if we understood what it is we'd > > be supporting, or even why, let alone how. In the meantime, rest > > assured, Y2K nostalgia sufferers, that you would have our sympathy > > if we had any. > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > 2000-12-12 Cavalcade of HotAIR: Bare Skin, $$, Peruvian Truckers > > > > Here are concise, incomplete, flighty mentions of some of the > > features we've posted on HotAIR since last month's mini-AIR came > > out. You can get to all of them by clicking on "WHAT'S NEW" at the > > web site, or by going to: > > <http://www.improbable.com/navstrip/whatsnew.html>; > > > > AIRHEAD TECH NOTES:, a curious missive we received, which seems to > > claim that, just maybe, Water Prevents Dehydration. > > > > RESEARCH QUESTION -- Cold Bodies, An Inquiry into Human Physiology > > (with lurid photos) > > > > STATISTICS LESSON -- Fat, Money, Correlation, Causality > > > > MAY WE RECOMMEND -- Several of the citations that first appeared > > in the "AIRhead Research Review" and "AIRhead Medical Review" > > columns of the AIR, such as: > > <> "Machismo in Motion: The Ethos of Peruvian Truckers" > > <> "We All Make Mistakes"" > > <> "Heterosis and Hybrid Performance in Topless Faba Beans" > > <> "Pseudostupidity: a Study in Masochistic Exhibitionism" > > > > POSTAL EXPERIMENTS -- Jeff Van Bueren's landmark paper, originally > > published in AIR 6:4, and now posted on the AIR web site as a > > public service > > > > THESE, AND MORE, ARE ON HOTAIR AT > > <http://www.improbable.com/navstrip/whatsnew.html>; > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > 2000-12-13 Project AIRhead 2000: Beast, Fan, Ball > > > > ITEM 49491 (submitted by investigator Pete Kaiser) > > STEEL DRAGON 2000, claimed to be the world's > > biggest, fastest, and longest roller coaster, located in the > > Nagashima Spaland amusement park in Japan. > > > > ITEM 6833 (submitted by investigator Ron Josephson) > > WhisperWind 2000, a ceiling fan made by Hunter. > > > > ITEM 52833 (submitted by Rodney Ray) > > TOP FLITE 2000 XL, a golf ball. > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > 2000-12-14 Postal Frights > > > > The US Postal Service (USPS) has announced that it is about to > > announce higher postage rates for periodicals. Possibly this is > > USPS's reaction to the aforementioned landmark article "Postal > > Experiments," which was published in AIR vol. 6, no. 4. > > > > In case you missed that article, we have now posted it on the AIR > > web site, at > > <http://www.improbable.com/airchives/paperair/volume6/v6i4/postal-6-4.html>; > > > > Most likely, the postal increase will be substantial, and if so we > > will need to raise, at least slightly, the cost of a subscription > > to AIR. This frightening fact may be as good an excuse as any for > > you to at last treat yourself to a subscription to the magnificent > > magazine, the Annals of Improbable Research. (For details, see > > Section 2000-12-17 below) > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > 2000-12-15 MAY WE RECOMMEND: Holiday Research > > > > Here are further selections from our vast collection of items that > > inexplicably have 2000 as part of their name. > > > > RAMADAN RESEARCH > > "Irritability During the Month of Ramadan," N. Kadri, A. Tilane, > > M. El Batal, Y. Taltit, S.M. Tahiri, and D. Moussaoui, > > Psychosomatic Medicine, vol. 62, no. 2, March-April 2000, pp. 280- > > 5. (Thanks to F. Harper for bringing this to our attention.) The > > authors explain their work: > > We hypothesized that people in Morocco are more irritable > > during the month of Ramadan than during the rest > > of the year.... RESULTS: Irritability was significantly > > higher in smokers than in nonsmokers before the beginning > > of Ramadan. It was higher in both groups during the Ramadan > > month. Irritability increased continuously during Ramadan > > and reached its peak at the end of the month. > > > > CHRISTMAS RESEARCH > > "Eye Damage from Christmas Trees," D.J. Brazier, Lancet, vol. 2, > > no. 8415, December 8, 1984, p. 1335. (Thanks to Reto Schneider for > > bringing this to our attention.) > > > > HANUKKAH RESEARCH > > "Jewish Holiday Hazards," G. Solomon, Journal of Family Practice, > > vol. 42, no. 1, January 1996, p. 84. (Thanks to Paulina Trefill > > for bringing this to our attention.) > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > 2000-12-16 AIRhead Events > > > > ==> For details and updates see <http://www.improbable.com>; > > ==> Want to host an event? <marca@chem2.harvard.edu> 617-491-4437. > > > > UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, BERKELEY SUN, DEC 10 > > 7:00 PM, Valley Life Sciences Building > > AIR Editor Marc Abrahams will present the latest on improbable > > research and the Ig Nobel Prizes. Event sponsored by National > > Center for Science Education and the Bay Area Skeptics. > > INFO: Eugenie Scott <scott@natcenscied.org> 510-526-1674 > > <http://www.ncseweb.org/meeting.asp>; > > > > INTERNATIONAL ELECTRON DEVICES MEETING, SAN FRANCISCO TUES, DEC 12 > > AIR editor MARC ABRAHAMS will ruin lunch by discussing the Ig > > Nobel Prizes and the current state of improbable research. > > INFO: Mark Law <law@tec.ufl.edu> (352) 392-6459 > > > > ANNUAL IG NOBEL BROADCAST, NATIONAL PUBLIC RADIO DATE TBA > > *** The broadcast was originally scheduled for Nov 24 -- > > *** However, it was pre-empted by NPR news coverage of > > *** the US national election > > *** When we know the revised schedule, we will > > *** post it here. > > Broadcast of recording of the 2000 Ig Nobel Prize Ceremony, > > on NPR's "Science Friday with Ira Flatow" program. > > INFO: <http://www.sciencefriday.com/>; > > > > MCGILL UNIV., MONTREAL TBA > > Date, time, etc. TBA > > > > ROCHESTER (NY) MUSEUM & SCIENCE CENTER WED, JAN 24, 2001 > > 7:30 pm. AIR Editor MARC ABRAHAMS will present the latest on > > "Improbable > > Research, the Ig Nobel Prizes, and Aha!-Ha-Ha Moments in Science." > > INFO: Paul Porell <paul_porell@rmsc.org> 716-271-4552 x 363 > > > > STANFORD UNIVERSITY WED, FEB 14, 2001 > > Valentine's Day improbable research gala with: > > <> AIR editor MARC ABRAHAMS > > <> "How to Quantify Failure" author MARTIN J. MURPHY > > <> "UFOs & Internal Combustion Engines" author SCOTT SANDFORD > > <> "Postal Experiments" author JEFF VAN BUEREN > > <> "Structured Procrastination" author JOHN PERRY > > <> and other surpris(ing) personages > > Further details TBA. > > INFO: Michele Armstrong <michelea@leland.Stanford.EDU> > > > > AAAS ANNUAL MEETING, SAN FRANCISCO FRI, FEB 16, 2001 > > Details TBA. AIR's annual session as part of the annual meeting of > > the American Association for the Advancement of Science. > > Participants will include: > > <> AIR editor MARC ABRAHAMS > > <> "How to Quantify Failure" author MARTIN J. MURPHY > > <> "UFOs & Internal Combustion Engines" author SCOTT SANDFORD > > <> "Postal Experiments" author JEFF VAN BUEREN > > <> "Structured Procrastination" author JOHN PERRY > > <> and other surpris(ing) personages > > Further details TBA. > > > > SAS/ACS SPECIAL JOINT MEETING, PRINCETON, NJ DATE TBA > > > > WEIZMANN INSTITUTE, ISRAEL WEEK OF MAY 13-18, 2001 > > Details TBA. > > > > HEBREW UNIVERSITY OF JERUSALEM MAY 2001 > > Tentatively scheduled. Details TBA. > > > > 11th FIRST ANNUAL IG NOBEL PRIZE CEREMONY THURS, OCT 4, 2001 > > Sanders Theatre, Harvard University > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > 2000-12-17 How to Subscribe to AIR (*) > > > > Here's how to subscribe to the magnificent bi-monthly print > > journal The Annals of Improbable Research (the real thing, not > > just the little bits of overflow material you have been reading > > here in mini-AIR). > > ............................................................... > > Name: > > Address: > > Address: > > City and State: > > Zip or postal code: > > Country > > Phone: FAX: E-mail: > > ............................................................... > > SUBSCRIPTIONS (6 issues per year): > > USA 1 yr/$23 2 yrs/$39 > > Canada/Mexico 1 yr/$27 US 2 yrs/$45 US > > Overseas 1 yr/$40 US 2 yrs/$70 US > > ............................................................... > > BACK ISSUES are available, too: > > First issue: $8 USA, $11 Canada/Mex, $16 overseas Add'l issues > > purchased at same time: $6 each > > ............................................................... > > Send payment (US bank check, or international money order, or > > Visa, Mastercard or Discover info) to: > > Annals of Improbable Research (AIR) > > PO Box 380853, Cambridge, MA 02238 USA > > 617-491-4437 FAX:617-661-0927 <air@improbable.com> > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > 2000-12-18 Our Address (*) > > > > Annals of Improbable Research (AIR) > > PO Box 380853, Cambridge, MA 02238 USA > > 617-491-4437 FAX:617-661-0927 > > > > EDITORIAL: marca@chem2.harvard.edu > > SUBSCRIPTIONS: air@improbable.com > > WEB SITE: <http://www.improbable.com>; > > > > > > --------------------------- > > 2000-12-19 Please Forward/Post This Issue! 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