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Date:      Fri, 9 Aug 2002 21:31:56 +0200
From:      Wilko Bulte <wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl>
To:        Matthew Jacob <mjacob@feral.com>
Cc:        Nate Lawson <nate@root.org>, Andrew Gallatin <gallatin@cs.duke.edu>, Marcin Gryszkalis <mgryszkalis@cerint.pl>, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha <freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: da driver problem?
Message-ID:  <20020809213156.B20020@freebie.xs4all.nl>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0208091218000.67834-100000@beppo>; from mjacob@feral.com on Fri, Aug 09, 2002 at 12:25:22PM -0700
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0208091208590.23518-100000@root.org> <Pine.BSF.4.21.0208091218000.67834-100000@beppo>

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On Fri, Aug 09, 2002 at 12:25:22PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, Nate Lawson wrote:
> 
> > To be more specific, the Qlogic isp* cards ALWAYS require you to load
> > firmware to give full access to the drive and do anything useful.  In the
> > x86 world, the isp boards only have enough code included on board to
> > manage int 13h for bootstrapping the OS and attempting to use them without
> > loading firmware is not defined.  With the Qlogic 2xxx boards in
> > particular, NetBSD and FreeBSD won't even boot without loading the
> > firmware (kernel hangs after probing the card).
> 
> This isn't always the case. Also, if this is the case, where's the PR? Don't
> start rumours, please.
> 
> ore precisely, there is f/w in flash that either the BIOS (x86)  loads into
> the card SRAM and restarts the microsequencer. There is no clear spec where
> that f/w actually *is* in flash else I'd pull it out in the driver and load it
> myself. This is why in many cases it is really best to load firmware via
> ispfw.
> 
> On alphas, SRM loads f/w into SRAM for models it understands. This is even
> more of a problem because for a Digital thought they knew better about doing
> isp f/w, so the f/w sets loaded cannot demonstrably be proven to even comply
> with QLOgic'c f/w interface specs.

Interestingly we always got the firmware from Qlogic. And threw quite a
few Qlogic attempts at f/w in the bin before releasing a version.

Ah well, ever after flashrom was invented f/w writer have become sloppier...

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