Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:30:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Van Valzah <Bob@whitebarn.com> To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: advocacy/13790: Kudos for Recent Press Message-ID: <199909171930.MAA85273@freefall.freebsd.org>
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The following reply was made to PR advocacy/13790; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Bob Van Valzah <Bob@whitebarn.com> To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl>, steve@FreeBSD.org Cc: FreeBSD Gnats <freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org>, Advocacy@FreeBSD.org, www@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: advocacy/13790: Kudos for Recent Press Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:24:49 -0500 --------------6BF71F65DAF2C9F2B9852940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeroen & Steve, I'm with you. I've been managing software development projects for 15 years so I understand the importance of keeping a PR system clean. Nobody wants the metrics mucked up. In fact, I actually set out this morning with the intent of sending E-Mail to the advocacy folks. I wasn't certain of their E-Mail address. (In retrospect, I should've just tried Advocacy@FreeBSD.Org and let it bounce if I was wrong.) I searched hoping to find a list of mail aliases or something. Most of the hits that came back were RQN issues. No E-Mail alias were listed anywhere in the top ten hits. Send-pr.html was the number 3 hit. It seemed hard to imagine how "advocacy" would be a problem category taken as seriously as say "kern," so I "abused" the PR system after 5 minutes of searching in vain. I apologize. But this sequence of events leaves me with some nagging questions 1. Does advocacy even belong on send-pr.html? What would be a reasonable problem to report in the advocacy category? Would you actually track it and close it? 2. Why doesn't Advocacy@FreeBSD.Org show up in the top 10 search hits? 3. What ever happened to the host Advocacy.FreeBSD.Org? (One of the search page hits lead there.) 4. I can't be the only guy to've ever introduced a "noise" message into the PR system. Is there a systemic problem that makes it difficult to close a "noise" message and get on with it? Thanks for your consideration. Bob Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > [intentional submission to GNATS left for the archives ] > > * Bob@WhiteBarn.com (Bob@WhiteBarn.com) [990917 19:28]: > > > >>Number: 13790 > >>Category: advocacy > >>Description: > >Not a problem--I just wanted to say kudos to the advocacy folks after > >noticing the Wall Street Journal and Boston Globe pieces recently. > > > >Keep up the good work! > > Pardon me for being the asshole now, how much I agree, but please, > PLEASE don't abuse the pr system like this. > > If you feel you need to congratulate the advocacy guys (whom we all > are in a sense) mail to advocacy@freebsd.org. You will reach them in > that way. > > If we start to dirty the PR system with stuff like this, we lose the > effectiveness of the PR system which is already a hell of a job to > maintain. > > Of course I speak from my own person, but I hope the others agree > with me on this one. > > -- > Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl > The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project <http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai> > Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best > Haste makes waste. --------------6BF71F65DAF2C9F2B9852940 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" link="#0000FF" vlink="#FF0000" alink="#000088"> Jeroen & Steve, I'm with you. I've been managing software development projects for 15 years so I understand the importance of keeping a PR system clean. Nobody wants the metrics mucked up. <p>In fact, I actually set out this morning with the intent of sending E-Mail to the advocacy folks. <p>I wasn't certain of their E-Mail address. (In retrospect, I should've just tried Advocacy@FreeBSD.Org and let it bounce if I was wrong.) <p>I <a href="http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/search.cgi?words=advocacy&max=25&source=www">searched</a> hoping to find a list of mail aliases or something. Most of the hits that came back were RQN issues. No E-Mail alias were listed anywhere in the top ten hits. Send-pr.html was the number 3 hit. It seemed hard to imagine how "advocacy" would be a problem category taken as seriously as say "kern," so I "abused" the PR system after 5 minutes of searching in vain. <p>I apologize. <p>But this sequence of events leaves me with some nagging questions <ol> <li> Does advocacy even belong on send-pr.html? What would be a reasonable problem to report in the advocacy category? Would you actually track it and close it?</li> <li> Why doesn't Advocacy@FreeBSD.Org show up in the top 10 search hits?</li> <li> What ever happened to the host Advocacy.FreeBSD.Org? (One of the search page hits lead there.)</li> <li> I can't be the only guy to've ever introduced a "noise" message into the PR system. Is there a systemic problem that makes it difficult to close a "noise" message and get on with it?</li> </ol> Thanks for your consideration. <p> Bob <p>Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE>[intentional submission to GNATS left for the archives ] <p>* Bob@WhiteBarn.com (Bob@WhiteBarn.com) [990917 19:28]: <br>> <br>>>Number: 13790 <br>>>Category: advocacy <br>>>Description: <br>>Not a problem--I just wanted to say kudos to the advocacy folks after <br>>noticing the Wall Street Journal and Boston Globe pieces recently. <br>> <br>>Keep up the good work! <p>Pardon me for being the asshole now, how much I agree, but please, <br>PLEASE don't abuse the pr system like this. <p>If you feel you need to congratulate the advocacy guys (whom we all <br>are in a sense) mail to advocacy@freebsd.org. You will reach them in <br>that way. <p>If we start to dirty the PR system with stuff like this, we lose the <br>effectiveness of the PR system which is already a hell of a job to <br>maintain. <p>Of course I speak from my own person, but I hope the others agree <br>with me on this one. <p>-- <br>Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl <br>The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project <<a href="http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai">http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai</a>> <br>Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best <br>Haste makes waste.</blockquote> </body> </html> --------------6BF71F65DAF2C9F2B9852940-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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