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Date:      Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:17:40 +0200
From:      Borja Marcos <borjamar@sarenet.es>
To:        Darryl Okahata <darrylo@soco.agilent.com>
Cc:        freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: 3ware stuff not ready for heavy duty useage-followup
Message-ID:  <200108221017.f7MAHeV17056@borja.sarenet.es>
In-Reply-To: <200108220315.UAA06753@mina.soco.agilent.com>
References:  <200108220315.UAA06753@mina.soco.agilent.com>

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On Wednesday 22 August 2001 05:15, you wrote:

> =09Well, "previously-owned cars" are also sold.  It doesn't mean
> =09that they're any good.  M$ Windows is also sold.  That doesn't
> =09mean that it's good for you, either.

=09I have seen really poor cases and power supplies around. Nowadays, wit=
h many=20
people (I'm not saying that this is the case!) assuming that computers ar=
e=20
unreliable and must be incredibly cheap, many manufacturers use poor qual=
ity=20
components, even in "high-end" products. For example, I've got a "server"=
 box=20
(paid aboud $200 for it) approved by AMD for my Athlon system, and one of=
 the=20
fans has started to fail after two years. I'm tired of seeing Compaq or S=
un=20
systems whose fans run for years.

=09It is impossible to manufacture a good power supply and sell it for $2=
0. It=20
just wouldn't cover the prices of the components!
> [ Going off on a slight tangent, it might be interesting to probe the
>   voltages with an oscilloscope, preferably a sampling one if available
>   (you've got to be careful about the usual electrocution, fire, and
>   component damage hazards, though ;-).  You probably won't be able to
>   tell anything conclusive, however, unless the power's really dirty
>   (which would be a good indication that the power supply is the
>   culprit).  Of course, you'd naturally have to do it under high-load
>   conditions.  ]

=09;-) The oscilloscope is a useful tool, indeed. I remember something I =
saw=20
some years ago. We sent an industrial PC to a customer, and two days ago =
the=20
disk was completely corrupted. We swapped it and the same happened. Someo=
ne=20
checked the power line, and the UPS they were using was suplying a voltag=
e=20
oscillating between 150 V and 240 V.=20

=09So, I don't think using an oscilloscope is "going on a tangent" ;-)



=09Borja.


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