Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:21:59 -0800 From: Kent Stewart <kstewart@urx.com> To: Doug Young <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au> Cc: "Kruppa, Peter Ulrich" <root@pukruppa.de>, Bill Schoolcraft <bill@wiliweld.com>, Eric Colburn <ecolburn@seeitfirst.com>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.3 FreeBSD Message-ID: <3AB92987.D3121D9F@urx.com> References: <Pine.BSF.4.33.0103211547240.254-100000@pukruppa.de> <048501c0b24a$7372c7c0$8300a8c0@apana.org.au>
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Doug Young wrote: > > > > I wanted to clarify whether you "re-install" with the new release > on > > > CD or "up-grade" with the new release on CD. > > Upgrading will leave your configuration-files and your applications > > untouched, reinstalling would destroy your configs and leave your > apps > > alive. > > Only when you really format or change your partitions-layout > everything > > will be redone. > > > I only tried one "upgrade" & that did mess the system up totally. Mind > you I didn't > read up on the ins & outs so possibly it will work with a bit of > effort. However I've > done so many fresh installs ... got into the habit with Windows :) > .....that I could > probably do them in my sleep, and with a relatively basic setup its > not a major > undertaking anyway. > > > > > > > If you "upgrade" what packages do you "choose" to install from the > > > newer CD to the older release ? > > The only time I tried an "upgrade" I didn't get that far .... it > crashed before that.. > > > > > I'll be building a 4.3 system as soon as I can get a 4.3 RELEASE ISO > and I'll try > an upgrade from 4.1 ..... will also run CVSUP on that & try a > buildworld etc. > Judging from the postings from people having problems that appear > attributable to > CVSUP though it does look like a recipe for trouble. Anyway (as we say > in OZ) > I'll "have a go ya mug" & if it proves to be Trouble I'll revert to > the "install a > RELEASE version & leave it alone til the next one" approach. I haven't found the cvsup route a problem. Most of the problems have been by people that didn't follow instructions. For example, the Handbook (19.4.1) tells you to above all else pay attention to /usr/src/UPDATING and Warner tells you to look at an archive of the last two weeks of email from -stable before you do anything else. Somewhere in there we have a literacy problem or a doesn't apply to me attitude. I am being a little bit harsh but there is a historical basis. There were a couple of us following O'Brien's upgrades to the /binutils during the 4.0 to 4.1 upgrade. I fired up a build according to the 3.x rules and my run died. My compile was a little bit faster than the other people. Warner did a gentle jab about reading UPDATING, which told me to do things differently. I read his instructions and followed the make buildworld and then buildkernel rule and everything was fine. I haven't changed my approach since then. I have a script that I fire off once we are past the release stage and the fixes that follow it during the next two weeks. From then on I simply run my upworld shell script, which does the cvsup and buildworld, buildkernel, installkernel, and installworld. I use a perl program to take the cvsup.log and turn it into HTML that links to cvsweb.cgi. You are in a center type environment and will probably have to boot to single user mode for the installworld. I normally don't have to on any of my systems. I am doing it everytime while 4.3 is being built. I won't automate running mergemaster. I lost my ppp.conf the first time and my firewall the next time I did that :). I had copies but it was a shock when things didn't work. Kent > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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