Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 11:48:25 -0700 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> Cc: "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, Warner Losh <imp@freebsd.org>, Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> Subject: Re: svn commit: r277204 - head/sys/amd64/conf Message-ID: <A01F4A0B-E7F4-464B-91F4-ACB055A36435@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <CAJ-Vmon1upJhjuAY8U8y376cxcqDwaVEu%2BBeOTDX5pp4TDsD1A@mail.gmail.com> References: <201501150042.t0F0g7Um018059@svn.freebsd.org> <20150115132303.GA245@zxy.spb.ru> <368B22F3-5607-46F8-B8D2-13CA59E94861@bsdimp.com> <CAJ-Vmon1upJhjuAY8U8y376cxcqDwaVEu%2BBeOTDX5pp4TDsD1A@mail.gmail.com>
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--Apple-Mail=_FE247EDB-1A38-477A-880E-BF8FC43131B5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Jan 16, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> wrote: >=20 > On 16 January 2015 at 09:57, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote: >>=20 >>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 6:23 AM, Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> = wrote: >>>=20 >>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:42:07AM +0000, Warner Losh wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Author: imp >>>> Date: Thu Jan 15 00:42:06 2015 >>>> New Revision: 277204 >>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/277204 >>>>=20 >>>> Log: >>>> New MINIMAL kernel config. The goal with this configuration is to >>>> only compile in those options in GENERIC that cannot be loaded as >>>> modules. ufs is still included because many of its options aren't >>>> present in the kernel module. There's some other exceptions = documented >>>=20 >>> Are you sure? >>> I think defining UFS options in kernel connfig affect to module too. >>> When I define this options in kernel config (w/o options FFS) I got >>> ufs.ko with this SU, quota, acl etc. >>=20 >> While one could set options in the kernel to affect the ufs.ko build, >> there=E2=80=99s not a universal ufs.ko that can be loaded easily that = switches >> between the different types of options. You can create modules >> that do this, but that=E2=80=99s a very very different problem than = the one I >> want to solve, namely you get the same[*] functionality having >> device fred in the kernel config as kldloading fred.ko. So rather = than >> bite off that problem also, I=E2=80=99m opting for simplicity. >>=20 >>>> +options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates = support >>>> +options UFS_ACL # Support for access control = lists >>>> +options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big = directories >>>> +options UFS_GJOURNAL # Enable gjournal-based UFS = journaling >>>> +options QUOTA # Enable disk quotas for UFS >>>=20 >>>> +options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory >>>> +options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues >>>> +options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores >>>> +device agp # support several AGP = chipsets >>>> +device random # Entropy device >>>> +device padlock_rng # VIA Padlock RNG >>>> +device rdrand_rng # Intel Bull Mountain = RNG >>>> +device vlan # 802.1Q VLAN support >>>> +device tun # Packet tunnel. >>>> +device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 = tunneling >>>=20 >>> This is loadable too. >>=20 >> True >>=20 >>> And please include: >>>=20 >>> NETMAP >>> NFS_ROOT >>=20 >> OK. >>=20 >>> IEEE80211_DEBUG >>> IEEE80211_AMPDU_AGE >>> IEEE80211_SUPPORT_MESH >>> AH_SUPPORT_AR5416 >>> AH_AR5416_INTERRUPT_MITIGATION >>> ATH_ENABLE_11N >>=20 >> These are already the default for the ath or wlan modules, if I=E2=80=99= m reading things correctly. >=20 > Nope. It=E2=80=99s simple to add any of the last 3 to modules/ath, but I see = your point. > The other half of this problem is where some modules (did? do?) > populate an opt_wlan.h with their own options. Some modules did this > with the inet option. You might thing that, but you=E2=80=99d be behind the times. The IEEE = options are centralized, as are the INET options. > When I've done what you're doing, I end up having these options in my > minimal config file so opt_xxx.h is correctly populated. That way when > I point SYSDIR (or whichever variable it is) at the configured kernel > directory with the opt_xxx.h files, it all works out correctly. Yea, that=E2=80=99s a different issue. > (I still think we shouldn't be relying on "defaults", but should ship > the opt_xxx.h files or something to derive the opt_xxx.h and makefile > config bits so things like external module building is possible > against a kernel. Or, we just kill all module options that change > behaviour/ABI of things in an incompatible way.) Options aren=E2=80=99t supposed to change KBI. Some do, and that=E2=80=99s= unfortunate. But don=E2=80=99t turn this into a rant on how sub-optimal the = opt_XXXX.h intersect with modules. That=E2=80=99s another set of problems to solve. Warner --Apple-Mail=_FE247EDB-1A38-477A-880E-BF8FC43131B5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJUuVz6AAoJEGwc0Sh9sBEAD1AQAM5AEyXxnOdjdQYyZgszjUQ7 +ElALFd8JAeALikfFBMSOBRU4bjA7btAEUfHpE3Lr1loJXHhxv0C4DWoVGfl0yQH HQr+Z6bFP9skPFwmwlGDggLwKrbZ0s38aDfHWe4hfcC4NwwHZKkzAz2DH54kn2al Q6ItPbu+rc3pZEYmmiiEu1zJxCDvSGtHzHuLHBsJZYNNm2W7pP8KvoFBf+qXxtNE s3LtSlx/waoZOcpRwOD3zmkb0yEU5h9M6LCo1Jdw9XyTBGMn0VlTWIMIjYOFJGcl mcR+mSyIW6FvgiHO9XuRyDiyRT/KeIxcLGjNKwiEoAuQGtyfVnnwQRHz1Jlm8MRe /gXTaY0dGx4/bgsR2CP+TfW8a6AsY8oPzLMP6FktSk5M+sdgH9QfITJMtY2yjaPP +2YG1Yh1GlbAUrW6ApGxRL9rg2dD5fPhVfmJHaDShQGp4p8L6O7fV5AIW26fqQFw o6gg57XPXct6CVpPmGudbPGfQQF4+lpaCoQjRmrLpOTkh/hZXUEvfMZH9eyQd8SE 3bjYWoD+RFLuwMy1EgGHYD6Pj8evq60Dxp+1Ihm5ZukvKfR0r9e9AnP6aIogFp7z ZPSemgSckunu3glcL18Bb6CzRZn6lpHeZ/vL1PHXDqAFCsnrVVPhcKYNiEOf3T3w HcOSjOTYDivsiOHPGIcz =SI4C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_FE247EDB-1A38-477A-880E-BF8FC43131B5--
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