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Date:      Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:22:57 -0700
From:      Alfred Perlstein <alfred@freebsd.org>
To:        Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org>
Cc:        arch@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ddb scripts now load by default
Message-ID:  <20080421192257.GF95731@elvis.mu.org>
In-Reply-To: <20080421192059.GA20748@lor.one-eyed-alien.net>
References:  <20080421182338.GB20417@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <20080421185557.GB95731@elvis.mu.org> <20080421192059.GA20748@lor.one-eyed-alien.net>

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* Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org> [080421 12:20] wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:55:57AM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> > I know this is a big step forward in a lot of ways, but it's also
> > a big step backwards for people used to how things just work.
> > 
> > Can we somehow put a "press a key to abort reboot" option in that
> > script before acting on it?
> 
> echo 'ddb_enable="NO" >> /etc/rc.conf

See, that's not really what I asked for. :)

but it's OK.

-Alfred

> 
> -- Brooks
> 
> > -Alfred (who thinks this is really cool, but wants to be able to
> > debug kernels without having to learn and disable something
> > new)
> > 
> > * Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org> [080421 11:24] wrote:
> > > I've changed the default value of ddb_enable to YES so we now load ddb
> > > scripts from ddb.conf by default.  Developers expecting to perform
> > > active deugging should add ddb_enable=NO or change the script to not
> > > perform at textdump and reboot the machine.
> > > 
> > > This is another step toward hopefully shipping 8.0 with DDB built
> > > in and generating useful crash dumps.  The security implications of
> > > doing so need to be carefully considered and in particular the GENERIC
> > > kernel will probably want to be shipped with at least the options
> > > DDB_UNATTENDED and SC_DISABLE_KDBKEY.
> > > 
> > > The fact that the watchdog driver changes it's behavior based on
> > > DDB_UNATTENDED is probably a bug that should be fixed.
> > > 
> > > -- Brooks
> > > 
> > > ----- Forwarded message from Brooks Davis <brooks@FreeBSD.ORG> -----
> > > 
> > > From: Brooks Davis <brooks@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > > Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:18:00 +0000 (UTC)
> > > To: brooks@FreeBSD.ORG
> > > Subject: [src] cvs commit: src/etc/defaults rc.conf
> > > 
> > > brooks      2008-04-21 18:17:48 UTC
> > > 
> > >   FreeBSD src repository
> > > 
> > >   Modified files:
> > >     etc/defaults         rc.conf 
> > >   Log:
> > >   Change the default of ddb_enable to YES so we default to generating textdumps
> > >   on panic.  This means you get a potentially useful dump even if your system
> > >   is running X when you panic.
> > >   
> > >   X-MFC after:    never
> > >   
> > >   Revision  Changes    Path
> > >   1.332     +1 -1      src/etc/defaults/rc.conf
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > cvs-all@freebsd.org mailing list
> > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/cvs-all
> > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "cvs-all-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Index: src/etc/defaults/rc.conf
> > > diff -u src/etc/defaults/rc.conf:1.331 src/etc/defaults/rc.conf:1.332
> > > --- src/etc/defaults/rc.conf:1.331	Sun Apr 20 20:37:20 2008
> > > +++ src/etc/defaults/rc.conf	Mon Apr 21 18:17:48 2008
> > > @@ -33,7 +33,7 @@
> > >  apm_enable="NO"		# Set to YES to enable APM BIOS functions (or NO).
> > >  apmd_enable="NO"	# Run apmd to handle APM event from userland.
> > >  apmd_flags=""		# Flags to apmd (if enabled).
> > > -ddb_enable="NO"		# Set to YES to load ddb scripts at boot.
> > > +ddb_enable="YES"	# Load ddb scripts at boot.
> > >  ddb_config="/etc/ddb.conf"	# ddb(8) config file.
> > >  devd_enable="YES" 	# Run devd, to trigger programs on device tree changes.
> > >  devd_flags=""		# Additional flags for devd(8).
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----- End forwarded message -----
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > - Alfred Perlstein
> > _______________________________________________
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> > 



-- 
- Alfred Perlstein



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