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Date:      Fri, 28 Dec 2001 23:28:12 -0800 (PST)
From:      John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org>
Cc:        arch@FreeBSD.ORG, Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
Subject:   Re: blurk! KSE vs the X86
Message-ID:  <XFMail.011228232812.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20011222055111.C28FA38CC@overcee.netplex.com.au>

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On 22-Dec-01 Peter Wemm wrote:
> Julian Elischer wrote:
>> 
>> Ok so we have this wonderful thing called a TSS
>> there is one per CPU by default, but you can ask that your process has it
>> own.. that would be one per process.. it has such things as the address
>> to load the system stack pointer from when running your process and take a
>> trap e.g. syscall.
>> 
>> This is in the PCB extension area. At this time there is only the 
>> capacity to set an extension into the single thread that would want it,
>> and it isn't associated with the process as such via the proc structure,
>> just via the PCB extension pointer.  So since threads are transient in KSE
>> processes when the thread migrates away (almost immediatly in some cases)
>> you have no trace of your extension area (hense TSS) so at teh next
>> swtch() it'll be gone again..
>> the QUICK answer is to say that vm86 and KSE can't be mixed, but
>> is that the best solution we can do?
> 
> Do not worry about the "best" yet.  Lets get a functional baseline
> code set that can actually do an upcall and actually do something useful
> before worrying about this sort of thing.
> 
> ie: until we have something functional in the tree, the policy should
> be:  KSE is not allowed with {VM86, local LDT, PCB extensions [io port
> access], etc.}
> 
> The "best" solution will be apparent after we have got the basics
> working.

LDT is already fine.  TSS will be harder as you need a per-process TSS template
that each thread builds its TSS from (possibly on the fly on each kernel
entry/exit).

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