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Date:      Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:32:11 -0700
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
To:        Darren Reed <avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au>
Cc:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>, Mike Silbersack <silby@silby.com>, Mark T Roberts <newsletter@marktroberts.com>, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG, net@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: non-random IP IDs
Message-ID:  <3ADBB93B.3C9DC3DE@elischer.org>
References:  <200104161836.EAA03291@caligula.anu.edu.au>

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Darren Reed wrote:
> 
> In some mail from Kris Kennaway, sie said:
> >
> >
> > --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ
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> >
> > On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 02:03:11AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> >
> > > Here's a patch ported from OpenBSD which randomizes this (supposedly
> > > such that it respects the constraint of not wrapping within the
> > > prescribed time period).  I should wrap it in a sysctl, I guess.
> > >=20
> > >   http://www.freebsd.org/~kris/ipid.patch
> >
> > Okay, I did this and updated the patch, with the sysctl defaulting to
> > off since the random algorithm does add some amount of overhead.
> >
> > > Comments?
> 
> You should optimize it for mod being 2^n-1 (or make that a requirement).
> 
> Also, drop the HTONS statements, they no longer make sense.  Before ip_id
> was a counter and so it made sense (sorta) to change its byte ordering to
> network.  Now it's just a random number so there is no longer any need.

there is a site that calculates server uptime from these numbers.
All the leading machines are freeBSD. When you do this it will 
no-longer be able to track us :-(

what is the problem in having these numbers sequential?



 
> 
> Darren
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